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Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM
I really didn't expect a scummer to go inactive like that, but more importantly, I was hoping we could get him as a modkill, which would have made him a bonus to someone else.

But it's true, I would totally have bussed Rana at that point, without the slightest hesitation.

We can be pretty much certain that Yuna is who she claims to be, and if we're ever searching for Serial Killers she'll be my top suspect again, but right now we don't even know that we have one of those, and the lack of night kill seems to imply that we don't. So as far as I'm concerned she is off-limits with regards to lynching.

Besides, her power probably makes her harder to lynch anyway.

Everything that applied to Taiga yesterday still applies today, but from the very little I've seen of the show, he roleclaimed pretty much exactly what I expected, and the claim is major enough that I don't expect it to be fake. Of course, Angel also has enough history that it could be a completely truthful roleclaim and still be scum.

But as of right now, I'm leaning against yesterday's top contenders. Next on the list was me, but obviously I'm not going to vote for myself :P.

The problem with the voting record here is that I generally don't count voting for inactives as especially meaningful. It's an easy vote to make - the target doesn't defend himself, it's easy to self-justify because even if he does turn out not to be scum (which is usually the case) then he was still acting antitown by draining the town's voting capacity, and scum are really not going to hesitate much in trying to improve their image by dropping the dead weight.

Which brings me to my own favourite suspect: Isaac.

I'm not seeing the case on Yuna or Taiga and it would have to be medium strong to get me to vote for a new player on Day 1


Not lynching new players (or Yunalesca again) is a sentiment I can understand, but from there to claiming that he "doesn't see the case on Yuna or Taiga" is quite a stretch. Both were significant deviations from the norm in ways that screamed scum so obviously that one of the major argument raised in both their defences was that this deviation made them so obviously scum that they would have been stupid not to lie about it if they were scum.

So that's pretty bizarre. And then he votes for Ranagrande post-hammer. Which probably means nothing, I'm pretty sure Isaac wouldn't have minded at all being the actual hammer, but he did vote late. Even though he claimed that he was inclined to vote against Ranagrande earlier than that. So I suspect that he was trying to ingratiate himself to Taiga and Yunalesca by defending them at the expense of someone he had no compunction against bussing anyway.

Vote: Isaac
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2499 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1596 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 925 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 914 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1533 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 862 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 920 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 980 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1603 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1587 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1549 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1618 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1562 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1440 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 914 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1730 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1499 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 1353 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1429 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1582 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1497 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1619 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 2011 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 1415 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1473 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1454 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 872 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1447 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1501 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 1396 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1505 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1549 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1527 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1618 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 941 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1515 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1436 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 978 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 996 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 970 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 961 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 924 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 928 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1705 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1631 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1492 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1535 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1669 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1538 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1499 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1452 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 1401 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1520 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 1434 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 1378 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1406 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 837 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1837 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 1376 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1426 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1490 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 844 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 952 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 1060 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1637 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 1330 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 1343 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1467 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 895 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 1416 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1493 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1516 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 1400 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1480 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 1382 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 918 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 951 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 944 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1462 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 798 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1550 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1523 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 1383 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1466 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 866 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1480 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1500 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 804 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1457 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1821 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 1351 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 700 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 888 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1383 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 982 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1538 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1443 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1502 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1507 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1523 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1483 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1422 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 901 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 881 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 956 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1440 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 1396 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1525 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 1011 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1428 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1458 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 1313 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1495 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 1336 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1548 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 1315 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1416 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 1398 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1472 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1478 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 1407 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1410 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 1374 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 1042 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 842 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 887 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1514 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1440 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 1351 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1427 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 1364 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 881 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1487 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 933 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1445 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 1520 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1442 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1533 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 939 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 1330 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 872 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 1410 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1471 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1462 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 815 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 865 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 932 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 1412 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1456 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1421 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1420 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 881 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1466 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1445 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1690 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1414 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 885 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 893 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 882 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1458 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 879 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1600 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 1365 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1569 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1572 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1442 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1622 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1421 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 876 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 861 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1549 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 875 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 924 Views

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