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Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. Isaac Send a noteboard - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM
I really didn't expect a scummer to go inactive like that, but more importantly, I was hoping we could get him as a modkill, which would have made him a bonus to someone else.

But it's true, I would totally have bussed Rana at that point, without the slightest hesitation.

We can be pretty much certain that Yuna is who she claims to be, and if we're ever searching for Serial Killers she'll be my top suspect again, but right now we don't even know that we have one of those, and the lack of night kill seems to imply that we don't. So as far as I'm concerned she is off-limits with regards to lynching.

Besides, her power probably makes her harder to lynch anyway.

Everything that applied to Taiga yesterday still applies today, but from the very little I've seen of the show, he roleclaimed pretty much exactly what I expected, and the claim is major enough that I don't expect it to be fake. Of course, Angel also has enough history that it could be a completely truthful roleclaim and still be scum.

But as of right now, I'm leaning against yesterday's top contenders. Next on the list was me, but obviously I'm not going to vote for myself :P.

The problem with the voting record here is that I generally don't count voting for inactives as especially meaningful. It's an easy vote to make - the target doesn't defend himself, it's easy to self-justify because even if he does turn out not to be scum (which is usually the case) then he was still acting antitown by draining the town's voting capacity, and scum are really not going to hesitate much in trying to improve their image by dropping the dead weight.

Which brings me to my own favourite suspect: Isaac.

I'm not seeing the case on Yuna or Taiga and it would have to be medium strong to get me to vote for a new player on Day 1

Not lynching new players (or Yunalesca again) is a sentiment I can understand, but from there to claiming that he "doesn't see the case on Yuna or Taiga" is quite a stretch. Both were significant deviations from the norm in ways that screamed scum so obviously that one of the major argument raised in both their defences was that this deviation made them so obviously scum that they would have been stupid not to lie about it if they were scum.

So that's pretty bizarre. And then he votes for Ranagrande post-hammer. Which probably means nothing, I'm pretty sure Isaac wouldn't have minded at all being the actual hammer, but he did vote late. Even though he claimed that he was inclined to vote against Ranagrande earlier than that. So I suspect that he was trying to ingratiate himself to Taiga and Yunalesca by defending them at the expense of someone he had no compunction against bussing anyway.

Vote: Isaac


You're overlooking that I've barely had a chance to look at the game the last couple months. I asked for someone to present a case, nobody gave me a hard one and I didn't have time to go hunting, had Rana been my ally I'd have gone for one of them instead, you know I don't like bussing. There were no strong cases, me opting to kill a modkill-waiting-to-happen is normal behavior from me.
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 1884 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 987 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 636 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 586 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 914 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 548 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 596 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 670 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1009 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 968 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 889 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1014 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 939 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 847 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 542 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1048 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 864 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 793 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 846 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 947 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 864 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1000 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1256 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 781 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 914 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 926 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 579 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 814 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 881 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 813 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 896 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 960 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 914 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 983 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 634 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 917 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 945 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 663 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 675 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 662 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 642 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 616 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 626 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1047 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1016 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 880 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 906 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1077 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 899 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 901 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 876 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 791 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 920 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 822 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 788 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 840 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 557 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1133 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 814 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 848 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 898 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 539 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 625 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 590 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1052 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 797 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 804 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 908 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 594 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 812 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 901 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 910 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 807 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 866 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 799 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 630 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 505 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 597 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 880 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 486 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 819 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 939 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 852 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 889 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 571 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 901 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 937 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 520 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 882 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1139 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 815 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 411 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 598 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 843 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 678 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 942 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 881 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 896 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 776 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 948 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 886 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 846 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 590 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 585 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 598 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 842 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 778 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 925 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 557 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 828 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 849 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 733 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 903 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 838 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 973 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 765 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 861 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 842 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 910 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 883 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 831 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 862 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 779 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 583 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 550 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 617 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 897 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 872 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 776 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 906 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 783 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 583 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 860 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 626 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 867 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 851 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 816 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 933 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 619 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 776 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 577 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 832 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 918 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 899 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 518 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 560 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 641 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 829 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 883 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 837 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 863 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 597 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 871 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 837 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1158 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 906 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 606 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 572 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 567 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 913 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 605 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 869 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 780 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 895 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 956 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 877 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 951 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 851 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 607 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 573 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 970 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 574 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 594 Views

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