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Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM

Non-Mafia Roles with Night Kills are Vigilantes and Serial Killers.


The stated goal of the Watch is to prevent Night Kills (though I concede it's possible Stephen had a secret victory condition you didn't know). Therefore, it is unlikely that Stephen would be both a member of the Watch and a vigilante.

A Serial Killer is a lone wolf, trying to kill everyone. It seems very unlikely that you would have a vampire/watch/serial killer, and have another vampire that was not related in some way. The narrative is all wrong. I very much doubt that Stephen was the "bad" vampire and Yuna is a "good" vampire.

So, since Stephen likely didn't get his Night Kill from being a Serial Killer or a vigilante, all that's left is being part of some kind of group that has reason and ability to Night Kill people. And this still fits in with your restrictions- Stephen's Night Kill doesn't have to be a faction ability, it could just as easily be intrinsic to his specific character.

For example- and I'm not suggesting this- A cult faction that was two people. The faction ability is to infect someone. One person has a night kill. The other person has a roleblock.

I used a very similar setup in my Comic Book Mafia- the scum could carry out their Night Kill, but each scum had their own power they could use instead.



As to why I'm focused on this, I'm niggling away at threads. Despite the large number of posts and Days we've gone through, we really have very little information. You know what gets us information? Blood. One lynch would tell us more than anything we've gone through in the last two days.

I think it's actually more suspicious that you are so adamantly defending Yuna. For all intents and purposes, this is basically Day One, or maybe Day Two. We have ONE dead body! On Day One, the smallest thing out of place will get you lynched. And, no offense to Yuna, but she hasn't even posted anything this Day.

We lose little by lynching her. We would gain, at the very least, a lot of information, not only from her death message, but from how this Days-long debate has been interacted with all players. We would also, if I'm right, be removing an anti-town predator.

I have a laundry list of reasons to lynch Yuna. Your defense amounts to, "But what if she's NOT evil?"


(and no, my role has nothing to do with vampires. I've just somehow become this anti-vampire crusader because it is the ONLY lead we have)

I amuse myself.
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Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap - 23/12/2013 02:05:56 PM 2232 Views
I was kind of hoping we had a Watch faction that would take out a Hippo tonight. - 23/12/2013 03:22:57 PM 1541 Views
I targeted a lot of people and don't know against whom I was successful or not. *NM* - 23/12/2013 11:47:29 PM 1004 Views
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *NM* - 24/12/2013 07:46:16 AM 947 Views
"a lot of people" and "don't know" the results - 24/12/2013 08:03:12 AM 1514 Views
You oughtn't be so surprised. - 24/12/2013 07:22:47 PM 1470 Views
Seems pretty consistent to me - 24/12/2013 07:40:33 PM 1618 Views
...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" - 24/12/2013 09:51:02 PM 1381 Views
Re: ...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" - 24/12/2013 10:15:41 PM 1406 Views
Re: Seems pretty consistent to me - 25/12/2013 04:09:14 AM 1474 Views
I'd like to know if you targetted me, as well. - 25/12/2013 02:17:25 PM 1583 Views
Did something happen to you? - 27/12/2013 03:45:20 AM 1481 Views
I believe so - 28/12/2013 12:58:24 AM 1494 Views
Well? Did you target me? I will make a statement immediately upon your answer. - 29/12/2013 03:52:17 AM 1339 Views
Why would I answer? - 29/12/2013 03:59:24 AM 1378 Views
Fine, then. Vote: Yunalesca - 30/12/2013 03:59:03 PM 1444 Views
Hmm - 01/01/2014 07:01:52 PM 1410 Views
I know people are reluctant to lynch "nice" vampires - 02/01/2014 02:44:47 PM 1529 Views
On the other hand... - 02/01/2014 06:15:48 PM 1461 Views
...you mean the one Night Kill victim we've had? - 02/01/2014 06:56:38 PM 1415 Views
So soap trumps night kill? - 04/01/2014 07:08:11 AM 1386 Views
Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna - 04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM 1545 Views
Re: Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna - 04/01/2014 06:58:57 PM 1625 Views
Short and sweet rebuttals - 04/01/2014 07:22:41 PM 1574 Views
My initial reaction... - 04/01/2014 10:47:11 PM 1413 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM 1472 Views
I say that a player likely attacking other players is a higher risk - 05/01/2014 02:37:40 PM 1368 Views
Not by your definition of "attacking", no. - 05/01/2014 06:08:49 PM 1474 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 06/01/2014 05:24:43 AM 1554 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 06/01/2014 05:51:20 AM 1501 Views
True, but there is no indication of a different group, is there? *NM* - 04/01/2014 07:37:15 PM 912 Views
Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted - 24/12/2013 07:58:55 AM 1478 Views
Fanatic-Templar - Not Guilty *NM* - 25/12/2013 10:18:51 AM 953 Views
Re: Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted - 25/12/2013 11:11:17 AM 1379 Views
At first I was like "Waah?", but then I noticed this... - 23/12/2013 09:08:16 PM 1543 Views
Hypocop Table - 25/12/2013 02:21:42 PM 1406 Views
Praziquantel - Not Guilty *NM* - 27/12/2013 04:58:14 AM 835 Views
FT not guilty *NM* - 27/12/2013 05:06:39 PM 990 Views
Re: Hypocop Table - 28/12/2013 04:12:15 PM 1575 Views
Bergioyn - Not Guilty - 02/01/2014 04:23:24 PM 1416 Views
Re: Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap - 30/12/2013 10:14:14 AM 1527 Views
Happy New Year! - 02/01/2014 02:37:51 PM 1444 Views
You too, I'll do my best. *NM* - 04/01/2014 07:35:03 PM 846 Views
Alright so hopefully this will get us to start talking/thinking again - 02/01/2014 09:45:23 PM 1765 Views
I'm guessing it's because of the RPS system - 03/01/2014 03:01:06 AM 1442 Views
What is your opinion of my vote towards Yuna? - 03/01/2014 03:04:16 AM 1429 Views
Yuna? Do you have any response to my accusation? *NM* - 07/01/2014 12:08:20 AM 819 Views
So, the promised roleclaim (most of it, at least). - 07/01/2014 03:48:16 AM 1539 Views
OK, so NOW do you concede that Stephen's NK was from being a vampire? - 07/01/2014 04:29:41 AM 1428 Views
? - 07/01/2014 07:38:55 AM 1360 Views
Hell, even if this weren't my own information... - 07/01/2014 08:35:33 AM 1511 Views
And furthermore... - 07/01/2014 08:41:11 AM 1463 Views
He had to get a NK from SOMEWHERE. And if you're dedicated to eliminating NKs... - 07/01/2014 08:54:38 PM 1558 Views
No. You do know what an individual role is, don't you? - 07/01/2014 10:06:16 PM 1504 Views
...what? - 07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM 1412 Views
This is a flawed argument in two entirely separate and divergent ways. - 08/01/2014 01:49:27 AM 1396 Views
Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous - 08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM 1511 Views
Re: Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous - 08/01/2014 07:25:04 AM 1581 Views
I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch - 08/01/2014 02:17:25 PM 1482 Views
Re: I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch - 08/01/2014 06:10:43 PM 1524 Views
How do you know we even have an undead faction? - 08/01/2014 04:28:16 PM 1294 Views
OK, this makes sense. - 07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM 1537 Views
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. - 07/01/2014 08:26:15 PM 1411 Views
Oh. Euhm. Wow - 08/01/2014 06:39:57 AM 1516 Views
Yeah, that was actually the first thing I asked about during the Night. - 08/01/2014 07:33:10 AM 1447 Views
Were you definitely blocked by the Watch? - 08/01/2014 02:45:17 PM 1563 Views
Re: Oh. Euhm. Wow - 08/01/2014 05:43:02 PM 1715 Views
Good work, F-T - 08/01/2014 05:40:41 PM 1786 Views
Re: Good work, F-T - 08/01/2014 06:09:56 PM 1555 Views
So... you want to lynch me, because I want to lynch scum? - 08/01/2014 08:50:26 PM 1440 Views
This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 03:25:02 PM 1490 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 05:33:39 PM 1479 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 06:42:44 PM 1594 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM 1671 Views
Whaaaaaat. We're not nation-building, here. - 10/01/2014 06:04:16 AM 1511 Views
And why shouldn't they? - 10/01/2014 04:25:21 AM 1719 Views
What if Stephen wasn't the target? - 09/01/2014 03:11:38 PM 1481 Views
VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 04:29:34 AM 1535 Views
I'll be looking forward to Sunday then. - 11/01/2014 05:21:57 AM 1367 Views
Sounds good to me too. - 11/01/2014 05:41:38 AM 1850 Views
Re: Sounds good to me too. - 11/01/2014 10:14:16 AM 1375 Views
Hooray, I can kill people just by wishing! *NM* - 12/01/2014 03:03:49 AM 969 Views
I am certain you will not use that power for evil... *NM* - 12/01/2014 05:09:11 AM 1071 Views
RBIRL - 11/01/2014 07:32:49 AM 1590 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 10:19:41 AM 1540 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 10:25:16 AM 1462 Views
Modkill - Yunalesca - 12/01/2014 09:04:40 PM 1863 Views
So... - 13/01/2014 12:57:58 AM 1924 Views
Re: So... - 13/01/2014 07:54:26 AM 1572 Views
EBWOP. - 13/01/2014 08:00:13 AM 1458 Views
Dwarves and possibly a vampire. - 13/01/2014 07:48:09 PM 1460 Views
They're identifiably foreigners. - 13/01/2014 10:05:08 PM 1928 Views
Not strictly true - 14/01/2014 08:55:57 AM 1512 Views
Re: Not strictly true - 14/01/2014 09:07:41 AM 1583 Views
I trust Isaac enough to think it was not a mistake. - 15/01/2014 02:44:40 AM 1333 Views
This is a reminder that someone stole my necklace and I'm still annoyed about that *NM* - 14/01/2014 06:30:39 PM 1062 Views
I'm still annoyed at having my wizard hat stolen too. - 15/01/2014 06:43:41 AM 1432 Views
Agreed, there are enough things left open. - 15/01/2014 03:24:29 PM 1532 Views
This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? - 15/01/2014 03:25:21 PM 1584 Views
Re: This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? - 15/01/2014 07:59:27 PM 1460 Views
I agree, those are the most likely candidates. - 16/01/2014 02:47:05 PM 1878 Views
Problem with that is that the known characters in this game are all recurrent. - 16/01/2014 09:05:38 PM 1570 Views
WIZARD. They're called WIZARDS. GOD *NM* - 17/01/2014 01:59:42 PM 1077 Views
Witches also exist in Discworld. *NM* - 17/01/2014 02:10:24 PM 853 Views
Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night - 16/01/2014 03:04:54 PM 1809 Views
Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 19/01/2014 09:12:56 PM 1448 Views
I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins. - 19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM 1770 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 20/01/2014 02:03:11 PM 1549 Views
I never fully got over the cancelation of Buffy and Angel *NM* - 20/01/2014 04:00:03 PM 1103 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 20/01/2014 10:51:15 PM 1492 Views
So... how are things with everybody? Doin good? *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:18:07 PM 1124 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:38:20 PM 997 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:44:34 PM 999 Views
Vote: Praziquantel *NM* - 23/01/2014 07:14:04 PM 832 Views
I'm not disagreeing, but what's your reasoning? *NM* - 24/01/2014 03:39:51 PM 1015 Views
What's been discussed already. - 24/01/2014 11:29:45 PM 1480 Views
Well, you know my reasoning - 24/01/2014 10:11:56 PM 1330 Views
And this is what I was waiting for. - 24/01/2014 10:48:16 PM 1864 Views
Vote: Praziquantel - 25/01/2014 09:30:54 PM 1440 Views
And here you are again. - 26/01/2014 06:52:21 AM 1769 Views
This is enought for me. Vote:ranagrande *NM* - 26/01/2014 11:38:42 AM 859 Views
I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz - 26/01/2014 07:18:45 PM 1477 Views
Re: I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz - 26/01/2014 10:30:31 PM 1847 Views
Then maybe I misinterpreted this: - 26/01/2014 11:37:08 PM 1433 Views
Wait let me try that again... - 26/01/2014 11:38:48 PM 1436 Views
Re: Then maybe I misinterpreted this: - 27/01/2014 02:49:59 AM 1735 Views
Okay fair enough. Unvote. *NM* - 27/01/2014 03:18:34 AM 910 Views
Hm, I think it might be too late to unvote - 27/01/2014 04:09:24 AM 1820 Views
He's right, I didn't check the time stamps - 27/01/2014 07:46:46 PM 1878 Views
Can we get an extension? - 26/01/2014 06:56:08 AM 1830 Views
Seconded. *NM* - 26/01/2014 11:39:05 AM 859 Views
granted - I'll leave it a bit non-specific for now *NM* - 26/01/2014 04:09:00 PM 987 Views
Thank you *NM* - 26/01/2014 07:05:45 PM 839 Views
VNTL is 4 at the moment - 26/01/2014 07:21:53 PM 1939 Views
Vote record Update 1 - 26/01/2014 07:35:43 PM 1864 Views
FT has also voted for ranagrande. *NM* - 26/01/2014 08:00:37 PM 898 Views
Thanks *NM* - 26/01/2014 08:02:13 PM 1069 Views
I demand blood! Also he's coming off a bit odd. Vote: Praziquantel *NM* - 27/01/2014 02:37:38 AM 1024 Views
Praziquantel has been lynched - 27/01/2014 07:49:45 PM 1847 Views
Twilight has begun - 28/01/2014 01:07:26 AM 1991 Views
Re: Twilight has begun - 28/01/2014 02:06:39 AM 1920 Views

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