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I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM

It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense either in either lore or game mechanics, unless everyone else is part of a faction with specific win objectives and there is no actual 'town'.

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Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap Isaac - 23/12/2013 02:05:56 PM 1587 Views
I was kind of hoping we had a Watch faction that would take out a Hippo tonight. beetnemesis - 23/12/2013 03:22:57 PM 938 Views
I targeted a lot of people and don't know against whom I was successful or not. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 23/12/2013 11:47:29 PM 656 Views
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *NM* beetnemesis - 24/12/2013 07:46:16 AM 555 Views
"a lot of people" and "don't know" the results Artsapat - 24/12/2013 08:03:12 AM 925 Views
You oughtn't be so surprised. Fanatic-Templar - 24/12/2013 07:22:47 PM 855 Views
Seems pretty consistent to me Praziquantel - 24/12/2013 07:40:33 PM 1021 Views
...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" beetnemesis - 24/12/2013 09:51:02 PM 791 Views
Re: ...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" Praziquantel - 24/12/2013 10:15:41 PM 812 Views
Re: Seems pretty consistent to me Fanatic-Templar - 25/12/2013 04:09:14 AM 873 Views
I'd like to know if you targetted me, as well. beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:17:25 PM 982 Views
Did something happen to you? Fanatic-Templar - 27/12/2013 03:45:20 AM 865 Views
I believe so beetnemesis - 28/12/2013 12:58:24 AM 906 Views
Well? Did you target me? I will make a statement immediately upon your answer. beetnemesis - 29/12/2013 03:52:17 AM 746 Views
Why would I answer? Fanatic-Templar - 29/12/2013 03:59:24 AM 836 Views
Fine, then. Vote: Yunalesca beetnemesis - 30/12/2013 03:59:03 PM 864 Views
Hmm ? - 01/01/2014 07:01:52 PM 838 Views
I know people are reluctant to lynch "nice" vampires beetnemesis - 02/01/2014 02:44:47 PM 896 Views
On the other hand... Fanatic-Templar - 02/01/2014 06:15:48 PM 884 Views
...you mean the one Night Kill victim we've had? beetnemesis - 02/01/2014 06:56:38 PM 838 Views
So soap trumps night kill? Fanatic-Templar - 04/01/2014 07:08:11 AM 814 Views
Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna beetnemesis - 04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM 925 Views
Re: Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna Fanatic-Templar - 04/01/2014 06:58:57 PM 976 Views
Short and sweet rebuttals beetnemesis - 04/01/2014 07:22:41 PM 984 Views
My initial reaction... ? - 04/01/2014 10:47:11 PM 857 Views
I dunno. If he was going to be modkilled, what would be the point of NK'ing him? beetnemesis - 05/01/2014 02:35:42 PM 740 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM 886 Views
I say that a player likely attacking other players is a higher risk beetnemesis - 05/01/2014 02:37:40 PM 746 Views
Not by your definition of "attacking", no. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2014 06:08:49 PM 885 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals ranagrande - 06/01/2014 05:24:43 AM 957 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2014 05:51:20 AM 874 Views
True, but there is no indication of a different group, is there? *NM* Artsapat - 04/01/2014 07:37:15 PM 557 Views
Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted Artsapat - 24/12/2013 07:58:55 AM 898 Views
Fanatic-Templar - Not Guilty *NM* Bergioyn - 25/12/2013 10:18:51 AM 576 Views
Re: Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted Taiga - 25/12/2013 11:11:17 AM 824 Views
Haha the "hypo" stands for "hypothetical." You're supposed to pretend like you did. *NM* beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:15:02 PM 539 Views
At first I was like "Waah?", but then I noticed this... Artsapat - 23/12/2013 09:08:16 PM 944 Views
Hypocop Table beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:21:42 PM 806 Views
Praziquantel - Not Guilty *NM* ranagrande - 27/12/2013 04:58:14 AM 507 Views
FT not guilty *NM* ? - 27/12/2013 05:06:39 PM 633 Views
Re: Hypocop Table Taiga - 28/12/2013 04:12:15 PM 933 Views
Bergioyn - Not Guilty Praziquantel - 02/01/2014 04:23:24 PM 839 Views
Re: Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap Sacrilicious Toast - 30/12/2013 10:14:14 AM 938 Views
Happy New Year! Isaac - 02/01/2014 02:37:51 PM 833 Views
You too, I'll do my best. *NM* Artsapat - 04/01/2014 07:35:03 PM 513 Views
Alright so hopefully this will get us to start talking/thinking again Praziquantel - 02/01/2014 09:45:23 PM 1072 Views
I'm guessing it's because of the RPS system beetnemesis - 03/01/2014 03:01:06 AM 871 Views
What is your opinion of my vote towards Yuna? beetnemesis - 03/01/2014 03:04:16 AM 837 Views
Interesting speculation, but it's not in line with the circumstances of the death scene Artsapat - 04/01/2014 08:50:08 PM 924 Views
Re: Interesting speculation, but it's not in line with the circumstances of the death scene Taiga - 06/01/2014 12:12:40 PM 931 Views
Yuna? Do you have any response to my accusation? *NM* beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 12:08:20 AM 500 Views
So, the promised roleclaim (most of it, at least). Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 03:48:16 AM 937 Views
OK, so NOW do you concede that Stephen's NK was from being a vampire? beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 04:29:41 AM 810 Views
? Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 07:38:55 AM 788 Views
Hell, even if this weren't my own information... Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:35:33 AM 940 Views
And furthermore... Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:41:11 AM 893 Views
He had to get a NK from SOMEWHERE. And if you're dedicated to eliminating NKs... beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 08:54:38 PM 922 Views
No. You do know what an individual role is, don't you? Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 10:06:16 PM 902 Views
...what? beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM 823 Views
This is a flawed argument in two entirely separate and divergent ways. Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 01:49:27 AM 832 Views
Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM 900 Views
Re: Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 07:25:04 AM 1001 Views
I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 02:17:25 PM 835 Views
Re: I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 06:10:43 PM 936 Views
The truth is we know nothing about the undead other than one of them had a NK beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 08:41:32 PM 869 Views
How do you know we even have an undead faction? Bergioyn - 08/01/2014 04:28:16 PM 730 Views
I don't, true. I know that we have more than one undead, and Stephen's NK was not a Watch ability beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 04:46:42 PM 800 Views
OK, this makes sense. Artsapat - 07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM 905 Views
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:26:15 PM 788 Views
Oh. Euhm. Wow Artsapat - 08/01/2014 06:39:57 AM 938 Views
Yeah, that was actually the first thing I asked about during the Night. Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 07:33:10 AM 876 Views
Were you definitely blocked by the Watch? beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 02:45:17 PM 902 Views
Re: Oh. Euhm. Wow Praziquantel - 08/01/2014 05:43:02 PM 1085 Views
Well I guess this confirms that we have a definitive scum faction. ? - 07/01/2014 10:06:14 PM 836 Views
Good work, F-T Praziquantel - 08/01/2014 05:40:41 PM 1178 Views
Re: Good work, F-T Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 06:09:56 PM 956 Views
So... you want to lynch me, because I want to lynch scum? beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 08:50:26 PM 837 Views
This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Artsapat - 09/01/2014 03:25:02 PM 854 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Fanatic-Templar - 09/01/2014 05:33:39 PM 886 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Artsapat - 09/01/2014 06:42:44 PM 983 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Praziquantel - 10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM 1077 Views
Whaaaaaat. We're not nation-building, here. beetnemesis - 10/01/2014 06:04:16 AM 916 Views
And why shouldn't they? Praziquantel - 10/01/2014 04:25:21 AM 1083 Views
What if Stephen wasn't the target? Artsapat - 09/01/2014 03:11:38 PM 858 Views
VNTL/modkill notes - policy Isaac - 11/01/2014 04:29:34 AM 935 Views
I'll be looking forward to Sunday then. ranagrande - 11/01/2014 05:21:57 AM 773 Views
Sounds good to me too. Fanatic-Templar - 11/01/2014 05:41:38 AM 1094 Views
Re: Sounds good to me too. Bergioyn - 11/01/2014 10:14:16 AM 766 Views
Hooray, I can kill people just by wishing! *NM* beetnemesis - 12/01/2014 03:03:49 AM 646 Views
I am certain you will not use that power for evil... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 12/01/2014 05:09:11 AM 671 Views
RBIRL Taiga - 11/01/2014 07:32:49 AM 943 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy Sacrilicious Toast - 11/01/2014 10:19:41 AM 912 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy Isaac - 11/01/2014 10:25:16 AM 892 Views
Modkill - Yunalesca Isaac - 12/01/2014 09:04:40 PM 1123 Views
So... Fanatic-Templar - 13/01/2014 12:57:58 AM 1171 Views
Re: So... Taiga - 13/01/2014 07:54:26 AM 911 Views
EBWOP. Taiga - 13/01/2014 08:00:13 AM 855 Views
Complicating matters, there are a ton of dwarves that have been born in the city *NM* beetnemesis - 13/01/2014 03:24:06 PM 531 Views
Dwarves and possibly a vampire. ? - 13/01/2014 07:48:09 PM 850 Views
They're identifiably foreigners. Fanatic-Templar - 13/01/2014 10:05:08 PM 1150 Views
If it helps your analysis any more, I'm satisfied that vampires aren't a threat beetnemesis - 14/01/2014 06:28:38 PM 1116 Views
Not strictly true Artsapat - 14/01/2014 08:55:57 AM 935 Views
Re: Not strictly true Artsapat - 14/01/2014 09:07:41 AM 1005 Views
I trust Isaac enough to think it was not a mistake. ? - 15/01/2014 02:44:40 AM 776 Views
This is a reminder that someone stole my necklace and I'm still annoyed about that *NM* beetnemesis - 14/01/2014 06:30:39 PM 733 Views
I'm still annoyed at having my wizard hat stolen too. ranagrande - 15/01/2014 06:43:41 AM 852 Views
Agreed, there are enough things left open. Artsapat - 15/01/2014 03:24:29 PM 925 Views
This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? Artsapat - 15/01/2014 03:25:21 PM 981 Views
Re: This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? Sacrilicious Toast - 15/01/2014 07:59:27 PM 880 Views
I agree, those are the most likely candidates. beetnemesis - 16/01/2014 02:47:05 PM 1131 Views
Problem with that is that the known characters in this game are all recurrent. Artsapat - 16/01/2014 09:05:38 PM 913 Views
WIZARD. They're called WIZARDS. GOD *NM* beetnemesis - 17/01/2014 01:59:42 PM 736 Views
Witches also exist in Discworld. *NM* Bergioyn - 17/01/2014 02:10:24 PM 517 Views
...I suppose. Still, the thought of calling a DW witch a "magician" makes my skin crawl. *NM* beetnemesis - 17/01/2014 05:15:09 PM 766 Views
Euhm. Yeah. Right. Sorry. Been a while since I read DW... *NM* Artsapat - 19/01/2014 08:37:11 PM 494 Views
Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night beetnemesis - 16/01/2014 03:04:54 PM 1019 Views
Re: Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night Sacrilicious Toast - 18/01/2014 03:36:41 PM 903 Views
Vampire was my interpretation, but the wording was just that I woke up feeling drained beetnemesis - 19/01/2014 06:33:10 PM 1094 Views
Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. Artsapat - 19/01/2014 09:12:56 PM 830 Views
I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins. Fanatic-Templar - 19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM 1032 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. ? - 20/01/2014 02:03:11 PM 929 Views
I never fully got over the cancelation of Buffy and Angel *NM* beetnemesis - 20/01/2014 04:00:03 PM 711 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. ranagrande - 20/01/2014 10:51:15 PM 918 Views
So... how are things with everybody? Doin good? *NM* beetnemesis - 23/01/2014 03:18:07 PM 763 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* Isaac - 23/01/2014 03:38:20 PM 646 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* Isaac - 23/01/2014 03:44:34 PM 640 Views
Vote: Praziquantel *NM* ? - 23/01/2014 07:14:04 PM 519 Views
I'm not disagreeing, but what's your reasoning? *NM* beetnemesis - 24/01/2014 03:39:51 PM 663 Views
What's been discussed already. ? - 24/01/2014 11:29:45 PM 811 Views
Well, you know my reasoning Artsapat - 24/01/2014 10:11:56 PM 732 Views
And this is what I was waiting for. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2014 10:48:16 PM 1150 Views
Vote: Praziquantel ranagrande - 25/01/2014 09:30:54 PM 826 Views
And here you are again. Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 06:52:21 AM 1072 Views
This is enought for me. Vote:ranagrande *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 11:38:42 AM 517 Views
I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz ? - 26/01/2014 07:18:45 PM 873 Views
Re: I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 10:30:31 PM 1076 Views
Then maybe I misinterpreted this: ? - 26/01/2014 11:37:08 PM 871 Views
Wait let me try that again... ? - 26/01/2014 11:38:48 PM 800 Views
Re: Then maybe I misinterpreted this: Fanatic-Templar - 27/01/2014 02:49:59 AM 1013 Views
Okay fair enough. Unvote. *NM* ? - 27/01/2014 03:18:34 AM 576 Views
Hm, I think it might be too late to unvote beetnemesis - 27/01/2014 04:09:24 AM 1037 Views
He's right, I didn't check the time stamps Isaac - 27/01/2014 07:46:46 PM 1124 Views
For what it's worth I completely agree that the lynch is legitimate. Fanatic-Templar - 27/01/2014 09:44:10 PM 1208 Views
For sure. I didn't even check the timing. *NM* ? - 27/01/2014 11:49:32 PM 571 Views
Also something of an issue because his death specifically grants a morale bonus to his lynchers *NM* Isaac - 28/01/2014 12:41:19 AM 651 Views
Can we get an extension? Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 06:56:08 AM 1084 Views
Seconded. *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 11:39:05 AM 529 Views
granted - I'll leave it a bit non-specific for now *NM* Isaac - 26/01/2014 04:09:00 PM 619 Views
Thank you *NM* ? - 26/01/2014 07:05:45 PM 541 Views
VNTL is 4 at the moment Isaac - 26/01/2014 07:21:53 PM 1153 Views
Vote record Update 1 Isaac - 26/01/2014 07:35:43 PM 1083 Views
FT has also voted for ranagrande. *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 08:00:37 PM 571 Views
Thanks *NM* Isaac - 26/01/2014 08:02:13 PM 701 Views
I demand blood! Also he's coming off a bit odd. Vote: Praziquantel *NM* beetnemesis - 27/01/2014 02:37:38 AM 695 Views
Praziquantel has been lynched Isaac - 27/01/2014 07:49:45 PM 1085 Views
Twilight has begun Isaac - 28/01/2014 01:07:26 AM 1207 Views
Re: Twilight has begun Fanatic-Templar - 28/01/2014 02:06:39 AM 1157 Views
Ha, cool! In a more active board, it might have been better, but still, neat idea *NM* beetnemesis - 28/01/2014 03:39:41 AM 745 Views
So, is it taking long because the Watch protected us SO WELL that you're writing an epic message? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/02/2014 06:33:39 PM 792 Views
The nights have grown as long as the days I think Isaac - 05/02/2014 12:57:11 PM 1528 Views
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