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I'm tired of passive story telling. Haggard Send a noteboard - 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM
Anyone else ever get tired of the action occurring offstage and being forced to learn about it through character monologues after the fact?

It's been happening over the last several books more and more often. The most egregious example was Rand's meeting with Logain. It's the lazy way to tell a story. Rather than write the action as it happens, just let a character remember it.

I was disappointed in the chapter, not because of the writing, nor do I think it is Sanderson's fault, but it was another 6500 words with nothing happening. Why not tell the story of the escape, or Rand's healing, or present some of the questioning scenes?

Flame Away! :)

EDIT: changed "6500 pages" to "6500 words"
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I'm drinkin' some George Jones,
and a little bit of Coe
Haggard's easin' my misery
and Waylon's keepin' me from home
Hank's givin' me those high times-
Cash is gonna sing it low
I'm here gettin' wasted-
just like my country heroes -Hank III
This message last edited by Haggard on 06/09/2009 at 12:45:38 AM
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Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 Sidious - 05/09/2009 05:23:47 PM 6192 Views
For all of those whining about it not sounding like RJ: Narg - 05/09/2009 05:47:07 PM 2058 Views
Agreed. If anything, it's a tribute to RJ Gher - 05/09/2009 06:17:36 PM 1923 Views
You're forgetting one thing. Cannoli - 06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM 2083 Views
And if he were to off Egwene? What would your opinion be? *NM* Ryan - 07/09/2009 05:38:36 AM 1095 Views
He dislikes Sanderson's prose. Plot content is irrelevant here. *NM* Marshall - 08/09/2009 06:44:42 PM 1106 Views
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all recap, no meat Erim - 14/09/2009 12:33:35 PM 1702 Views
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Re: Pretty good. Chas - 13/09/2009 01:22:22 PM 1623 Views
I found it well-written, but rather uninteresting story-wise *NM* ursidae - 05/09/2009 08:04:15 PM 1157 Views
because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Apsalar Shadowdancer - 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM 1800 Views
I'm tired of passive story telling. Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM 1770 Views
On the other hand... Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:58:21 PM 1856 Views
Re: I'm tired of passive story telling. CupofDice - 05/09/2009 10:42:57 PM 1705 Views
Which escape? Marshall - 05/09/2009 11:10:01 PM 1711 Views
I'm tired of mindless readers Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM 1845 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers DomA - 06/09/2009 04:01:56 AM 1995 Views
Your best yet Dom! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 02:04:40 PM 1045 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers MissKoalaVB - 07/09/2009 04:39:36 AM 1712 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 10:42:29 PM 1693 Views
I was over critical. Haggard - 06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM 1639 Views
A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM 1823 Views
It's been happening since Book IV btw. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:30:52 PM 1480 Views
Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM 1751 Views
A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM 1965 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) RandAllThor - 05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM 1889 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM 1709 Views
I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter. Werthead - 06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM 1674 Views
I don't really agree... lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:50:08 AM 1661 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 06/09/2009 02:52:47 AM 2376 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM 1627 Views
Just answer one question... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:53:12 AM 2150 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 06/09/2009 10:31:20 AM 2207 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) redhand - 07/09/2009 05:09:38 AM 1688 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 08/09/2009 10:19:13 PM 1685 Views
If I may make a few somewhat irrelevant interjections... Digital_Eon - 09/09/2009 04:44:45 AM 1610 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 10/09/2009 06:20:56 AM 1969 Views
On Egwene... fionwe1987 - 10/09/2009 04:33:58 PM 1670 Views
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Nynaeve balefried - 08/09/2009 05:43:43 AM 1789 Views
Re: Nynaeve Vidarfe - 08/09/2009 08:06:20 AM 1579 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) MissKoalaVB - 07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM 1755 Views
Answers, short, long and longer. NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 11:27:53 PM 1694 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Dominic - 09/09/2009 03:48:53 PM 1705 Views
I think you missed some things. (spoilers) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:21:43 PM 1470 Views
People who still have their wotmania SNs draw mine.... Joel - 21/09/2009 05:25:15 PM 1526 Views
Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM 1480 Views
First thought...a typo! ner vous = nervous. *NM* Marshall - 05/09/2009 09:55:28 PM 1095 Views
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Re: I found it...interesting --spoilers-- NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 02:54:17 PM 1774 Views
I'm excited. (Here be spoilers) Seriana Sedai - 06/09/2009 03:29:59 AM 1654 Views
six questions and nine statements RabidWombat - 06/09/2009 04:47:52 AM 1716 Views
Re: Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 StoneDogAiel - 06/09/2009 04:51:04 AM 1669 Views
Re: Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 gban007 - 06/09/2009 07:30:53 AM 1725 Views
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Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM 1668 Views
Re: Some questions... Sidious - 06/09/2009 08:11:08 AM 1755 Views
Re: Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:53:20 AM 1659 Views
Re: I liked it Fanatic-Templar - 06/09/2009 09:55:41 PM 1673 Views
Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM 2578 Views
Also AliasRY - 06/09/2009 08:24:45 AM 1682 Views
A simpler answer NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM 1755 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 03:38:59 PM 1597 Views
Look at what he has seen... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM 1549 Views
And all this happeened in the few days between the end of KoD and the beginning of tGS? fionwe1987 - 07/09/2009 12:35:29 AM 1649 Views
Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already Cannoli - 07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM 1768 Views
She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM* redhand - 07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM 1000 Views
are we already at the location of the book cover? Deadsy - 06/09/2009 11:49:06 AM 1636 Views
Re: are we already at the location of the book cover? spike - 06/09/2009 02:43:24 PM 1643 Views
I still think it's Aviendha Deadsy - 07/09/2009 05:14:50 AM 1498 Views
Omniscient narrator not neutral enough, for one... Shannow - 06/09/2009 04:17:51 PM 1834 Views
Yip Sidious - 06/09/2009 04:29:40 PM 1757 Views
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Two Things aria - 07/09/2009 12:25:31 AM 1684 Views
Moiraine Deadsy - 07/09/2009 01:19:08 AM 1767 Views
The Moiraine thing is dumb Marshall - 09/09/2009 09:53:51 PM 1640 Views
She fell through the doorway with Lanfear Fanatic-Templar - 09/09/2009 10:18:55 PM 1583 Views
uh Deadsy - 09/09/2009 10:57:17 PM 1616 Views
Timeline? Deadsy - 07/09/2009 05:10:16 AM 1665 Views
Re: Timeline? NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 05:52:50 PM 1613 Views
So what chapter symbol is it going to have? *NM* Cannoli - 07/09/2009 08:09:54 AM 963 Views
the dragon in COT chap 23 ornaments *NM* rosco12 - 07/09/2009 01:28:58 PM 962 Views
The Seanchan are up to something Knightscape - 07/09/2009 10:26:23 AM 1655 Views
Red stone doorway. Bigerich - 07/09/2009 03:27:22 PM 1526 Views
The whole thing was explained by Rand in KoD. So no, not new. fionwe1987 - 07/09/2009 06:35:01 PM 1539 Views
No Deadsy - 07/09/2009 07:57:57 PM 1528 Views
Questions, Comments Thoughts and Theories about tGS Orlin_Artemi - 07/09/2009 09:09:05 PM 1723 Views
My thoughts are that the main page is being crowded by too many duplicate threads Lord o' Salv - 07/09/2009 10:23:41 PM 1662 Views
Hrm... Sidious - 08/09/2009 05:28:19 AM 1726 Views
Enjoyed it lodlom - 08/09/2009 01:35:03 AM 1643 Views
Ready for More Raforsaken - 08/09/2009 04:25:19 PM 1659 Views
... Seventysix - 08/09/2009 07:24:46 PM 1591 Views
Not sure what I expected, but not this... Myrdhyn - 09/09/2009 04:07:10 PM 1674 Views
I know why Rand is mad at Egwene...read inside to find out Lan al'Mandragoran - 11/09/2009 03:15:00 AM 1725 Views
Ummm... the embassy's proposal was accepted, and (presumably) communicated to Egwene at the earliest *NM* fionwe1987 - 11/09/2009 04:16:31 AM 1085 Views
It's his increasing paranoia and dehumanization. Cannoli - 15/09/2009 03:03:53 AM 1627 Views
Re: Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 artois - 16/09/2009 06:20:14 AM 1412 Views
Semirhage isn't scaring anyone Sidious - 28/09/2009 02:32:34 PM 1939 Views
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Will the Chosen pass that edict down or just not act themselves? Rurouni_Kenshin - 28/09/2009 10:29:53 PM 1520 Views
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