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I'm tired of passive story telling. Haggard Send a noteboard - 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM
Anyone else ever get tired of the action occurring offstage and being forced to learn about it through character monologues after the fact?

It's been happening over the last several books more and more often. The most egregious example was Rand's meeting with Logain. It's the lazy way to tell a story. Rather than write the action as it happens, just let a character remember it.

I was disappointed in the chapter, not because of the writing, nor do I think it is Sanderson's fault, but it was another 6500 words with nothing happening. Why not tell the story of the escape, or Rand's healing, or present some of the questioning scenes?

Flame Away! :)

EDIT: changed "6500 pages" to "6500 words"
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I'm drinkin' some George Jones,
and a little bit of Coe
Haggard's easin' my misery
and Waylon's keepin' me from home
Hank's givin' me those high times-
Cash is gonna sing it low
I'm here gettin' wasted-
just like my country heroes -Hank III
This message last edited by Haggard on 06/09/2009 at 12:45:38 AM
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For all of those whining about it not sounding like RJ: Narg - 05/09/2009 05:47:07 PM 1986 Views
Agreed. If anything, it's a tribute to RJ Gher - 05/09/2009 06:17:36 PM 1851 Views
You're forgetting one thing. Cannoli - 06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM 1983 Views
And if he were to off Egwene? What would your opinion be? *NM* Ryan - 07/09/2009 05:38:36 AM 995 Views
He dislikes Sanderson's prose. Plot content is irrelevant here. *NM* Marshall - 08/09/2009 06:44:42 PM 1068 Views
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Re: Pretty good. Chas - 13/09/2009 01:22:22 PM 1549 Views
I found it well-written, but rather uninteresting story-wise *NM* ursidae - 05/09/2009 08:04:15 PM 1082 Views
because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Apsalar Shadowdancer - 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM 1705 Views
I'm tired of passive story telling. Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM 1683 Views
On the other hand... Haggard - 05/09/2009 08:58:21 PM 1753 Views
Re: I'm tired of passive story telling. CupofDice - 05/09/2009 10:42:57 PM 1609 Views
Which escape? Marshall - 05/09/2009 11:10:01 PM 1632 Views
I'm tired of mindless readers Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM 1765 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers DomA - 06/09/2009 04:01:56 AM 1920 Views
Your best yet Dom! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 02:04:40 PM 1013 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers MissKoalaVB - 07/09/2009 04:39:36 AM 1617 Views
Re: I'm tired of mindless readers NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 10:42:29 PM 1606 Views
I was over critical. Haggard - 06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM 1556 Views
A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM 1748 Views
It's been happening since Book IV btw. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:30:52 PM 1397 Views
Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter Cannoli - 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM 1672 Views
A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM 1860 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) RandAllThor - 05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM 1816 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM 1637 Views
I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter. Werthead - 06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM 1592 Views
I don't really agree... lilltempest - 06/09/2009 03:50:08 AM 1562 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 06/09/2009 02:52:47 AM 2245 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM 1555 Views
Just answer one question... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:53:12 AM 2073 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) redhand - 07/09/2009 05:09:38 AM 1617 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) lilltempest - 08/09/2009 10:19:13 PM 1598 Views
If I may make a few somewhat irrelevant interjections... Digital_Eon - 09/09/2009 04:44:45 AM 1504 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Cannoli - 10/09/2009 06:20:56 AM 1854 Views
On Egwene... fionwe1987 - 10/09/2009 04:33:58 PM 1570 Views
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Nynaeve balefried - 08/09/2009 05:43:43 AM 1706 Views
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) MissKoalaVB - 07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM 1684 Views
Answers, short, long and longer. NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 11:27:53 PM 1600 Views
Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers) Dominic - 09/09/2009 03:48:53 PM 1629 Views
I think you missed some things. (spoilers) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/09/2009 05:21:43 PM 1374 Views
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Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier The Angry Druid - 28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM 1393 Views
First thought...a typo! ner vous = nervous. *NM* Marshall - 05/09/2009 09:55:28 PM 1021 Views
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Re: I found it...interesting --spoilers-- NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 02:54:17 PM 1700 Views
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six questions and nine statements RabidWombat - 06/09/2009 04:47:52 AM 1624 Views
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Re: Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 gban007 - 06/09/2009 07:30:53 AM 1655 Views
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Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM 1600 Views
Re: Some questions... Sidious - 06/09/2009 08:11:08 AM 1666 Views
Re: Some questions... fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 08:53:20 AM 1573 Views
Re: I liked it Fanatic-Templar - 06/09/2009 09:55:41 PM 1602 Views
Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM 2493 Views
Also AliasRY - 06/09/2009 08:24:45 AM 1596 Views
A simpler answer NaClH2O - 06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM 1675 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 06/09/2009 03:38:59 PM 1516 Views
Look at what he has seen... Cannoli - 06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM 1477 Views
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Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already Cannoli - 07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM 1690 Views
She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM* redhand - 07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM 958 Views
are we already at the location of the book cover? Deadsy - 06/09/2009 11:49:06 AM 1560 Views
Re: are we already at the location of the book cover? spike - 06/09/2009 02:43:24 PM 1554 Views
I still think it's Aviendha Deadsy - 07/09/2009 05:14:50 AM 1410 Views
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Yip Sidious - 06/09/2009 04:29:40 PM 1682 Views
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Two Things aria - 07/09/2009 12:25:31 AM 1612 Views
Moiraine Deadsy - 07/09/2009 01:19:08 AM 1683 Views
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She fell through the doorway with Lanfear Fanatic-Templar - 09/09/2009 10:18:55 PM 1511 Views
uh Deadsy - 09/09/2009 10:57:17 PM 1548 Views
Timeline? Deadsy - 07/09/2009 05:10:16 AM 1570 Views
Re: Timeline? NaClH2O - 07/09/2009 05:52:50 PM 1526 Views
So what chapter symbol is it going to have? *NM* Cannoli - 07/09/2009 08:09:54 AM 926 Views
the dragon in COT chap 23 ornaments *NM* rosco12 - 07/09/2009 01:28:58 PM 926 Views
The Seanchan are up to something Knightscape - 07/09/2009 10:26:23 AM 1575 Views
Red stone doorway. Bigerich - 07/09/2009 03:27:22 PM 1459 Views
The whole thing was explained by Rand in KoD. So no, not new. fionwe1987 - 07/09/2009 06:35:01 PM 1461 Views
No Deadsy - 07/09/2009 07:57:57 PM 1455 Views
Questions, Comments Thoughts and Theories about tGS Orlin_Artemi - 07/09/2009 09:09:05 PM 1644 Views
My thoughts are that the main page is being crowded by too many duplicate threads Lord o' Salv - 07/09/2009 10:23:41 PM 1583 Views
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Enjoyed it lodlom - 08/09/2009 01:35:03 AM 1559 Views
Ready for More Raforsaken - 08/09/2009 04:25:19 PM 1584 Views
... Seventysix - 08/09/2009 07:24:46 PM 1519 Views
Not sure what I expected, but not this... Myrdhyn - 09/09/2009 04:07:10 PM 1597 Views
I know why Rand is mad at Egwene...read inside to find out Lan al'Mandragoran - 11/09/2009 03:15:00 AM 1637 Views
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It's his increasing paranoia and dehumanization. Cannoli - 15/09/2009 03:03:53 AM 1550 Views
Re: Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1 artois - 16/09/2009 06:20:14 AM 1339 Views
Semirhage isn't scaring anyone Sidious - 28/09/2009 02:32:34 PM 1846 Views
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Will the Chosen pass that edict down or just not act themselves? Rurouni_Kenshin - 28/09/2009 10:29:53 PM 1450 Views
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