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I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM
There's that whole thing about the Book of Somethingorother. Book of Changes?

Anyways, it seems they've discussed leaving the universe of the Westlands for another. I'm guessing for their own original, home universe.

A quick hypothesis on the Ogier.

During the Age of Legends, people visited other Universes, including the Finns and the Ogier. They found the Ogier friendly, and welcomed them. The Ogier react negatively to the One Power over time, and so need the stedding, which the Aes Sedai created for them to be able to stay. I'm guessing the Ogier leave after the end of A Memory of Light.
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 1772 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1063 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 447 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 445 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 902 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1011 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3480 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 793 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 860 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 930 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1080 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 805 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 975 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 992 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 901 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 466 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 875 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 425 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 434 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 1899 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 842 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1521 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 837 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 468 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 816 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 924 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 868 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 896 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 991 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 810 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 823 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1151 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 904 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 870 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 874 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 830 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 786 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 849 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 873 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 895 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 726 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 812 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 879 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 824 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 759 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 789 Views
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