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I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM
There's that whole thing about the Book of Somethingorother. Book of Changes?

Anyways, it seems they've discussed leaving the universe of the Westlands for another. I'm guessing for their own original, home universe.

A quick hypothesis on the Ogier.

During the Age of Legends, people visited other Universes, including the Finns and the Ogier. They found the Ogier friendly, and welcomed them. The Ogier react negatively to the One Power over time, and so need the stedding, which the Aes Sedai created for them to be able to stay. I'm guessing the Ogier leave after the end of A Memory of Light.
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 2071 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1426 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 587 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 587 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1211 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1402 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3962 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 1109 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 1158 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1317 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1395 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 1126 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1265 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1296 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 1214 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 602 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 1174 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 579 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 580 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 2247 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 1172 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1846 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 1133 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 619 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 1149 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 1214 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 1153 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 1232 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1347 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 1120 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 1195 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1501 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 1232 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 1162 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 1206 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 1158 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 1130 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 1153 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 1203 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 1231 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 1052 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 1161 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 1180 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 1163 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 1089 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 1093 Views
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