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I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM
There's that whole thing about the Book of Somethingorother. Book of Changes?

Anyways, it seems they've discussed leaving the universe of the Westlands for another. I'm guessing for their own original, home universe.

A quick hypothesis on the Ogier.

During the Age of Legends, people visited other Universes, including the Finns and the Ogier. They found the Ogier friendly, and welcomed them. The Ogier react negatively to the One Power over time, and so need the stedding, which the Aes Sedai created for them to be able to stay. I'm guessing the Ogier leave after the end of A Memory of Light.
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 1966 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1283 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 535 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 526 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1103 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1261 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3775 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 991 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 1052 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1175 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1285 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 1015 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1159 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1188 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 1092 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 552 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 1065 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 519 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 521 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 2124 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 1058 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1741 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 1016 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 557 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 1035 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 1126 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 1066 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 1120 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1205 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 993 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 1052 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1387 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 1109 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 1055 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 1079 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 1044 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 999 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 1032 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 1082 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 1097 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 933 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 1045 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 1060 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 1043 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 980 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 984 Views
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