A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this...
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM
That you revere every description and have no problems with the pacing of the story is fine.
Thank you. Seriously though, it is not so much the pacing as the fact that this is a mere 1/30th or so of the book. This has nothing to do with my affection for the descriptions or anything like that. It is merely one chapter of a novel, and was not written to be a stand-alone work. The problem is that this does not make you a better fan than those that miss the pacing of the first half of the series.
Ah, yes. Who could forget the beginnings of books 1 - 6, where the good guys revealed that they had mostly been sitting on their asses since the last book ended, and were starting to think about going somewhere, and probably should have set out a while ago. THOSE were thrilling works all right! Nor does it mean that your opinion is somehow more valid than others. People read fantasy for different reasons. Some read for edification others for entertainment. What some people find entertaining others may find tedious.
Yes, fine. But YOU are the one complaining about it and saying it is lacking. Take your own advice - just because you do not like it, does not mean others do. I’m a huge fan of the series and it saddens me that the last half has not fulfilled its promise. Perhaps, I’m too vocal in my criticism, but it is in part because I remember what it used to be.
Can you even articulate what that was? Things change. A series is not the same from beginning to end, and a book is not encapsulated in a microcosmic form in its first chapter. I’m going to try to overcome my jadedness and look at the series with fresh eyes as I work on my current reread.
You obviously have a vast knowledge and understanding of books, much more than the average fan. Yet your inability to view the books with any sort of critical eye damages your credibility.
My credibility with people who don't understand it as well? According to you. You obviously have a vast knowledge and understanding of books, much more than the average fan. Yet your inability to view the books with any sort of critical eye damages your credibility.
WoT is not literature. It will not be taught in English Lit classes 200 years from now. It has some flaws. Pointing them out doesn’t undo all the wonderful things about the series. Nor does it mean that the fans that point them out are “mindless.”
Nor does the inevitability of flaws existing mean that stupid criticisms are any less stupid. I was very specific in refuting your assertions, but you offer no evidence of the flaws you claim are in there, nor do you defend your original assertions, leaving me to conclude that there is not a lot of thought or reasoning behind the knee-jerk reaction to 3% of a story. I stand by "mindless" without some evidence otherwise.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1
- 05/09/2009 05:23:47 PM
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For all of those whining about it not sounding like RJ:
- 05/09/2009 05:47:07 PM
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You're forgetting one thing.
- 06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM
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And if he were to off Egwene? What would your opinion be? *NM*
- 07/09/2009 05:38:36 AM
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He dislikes Sanderson's prose. Plot content is irrelevant here. *NM*
- 08/09/2009 06:44:42 PM
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Pretty good.
- 05/09/2009 07:35:41 PM
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Re: Pretty good.
- 05/09/2009 09:13:44 PM
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I found it well-written, but rather uninteresting story-wise *NM*
- 05/09/2009 08:04:15 PM
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because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter
- 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM
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- 05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM
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I'm tired of passive story telling.
- 05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM
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I'm tired of mindless readers
- 06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM
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Re: I'm tired of mindless readers
- 06/09/2009 04:01:56 AM
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I was over critical.
- 06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM
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A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this...
- 06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM
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Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter
- 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM
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- 06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM
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A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM
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I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter.
- 06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 06/09/2009 02:52:47 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 06/09/2009 10:31:20 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 07/09/2009 05:09:38 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 08/09/2009 10:19:13 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 10/09/2009 06:20:56 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 08/09/2009 11:46:44 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
- 09/09/2009 03:48:53 PM
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Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier
- 28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM
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Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
- 06/09/2009 12:02:13 AM
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Re: Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
- 06/09/2009 05:12:25 PM
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Re: Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
- 06/09/2009 07:20:45 PM
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I found it...interesting --spoilers--
- 06/09/2009 01:33:11 AM
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I liked it
- 06/09/2009 07:58:09 AM
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Some questions...
- 06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM
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Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up?
- 06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM
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A simpler answer
- 06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM
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Really?
- 06/09/2009 03:38:59 PM
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Look at what he has seen...
- 06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM
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And all this happeened in the few days between the end of KoD and the beginning of tGS?
- 07/09/2009 12:35:29 AM
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Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already
- 07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM
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She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM*
- 07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM
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are we already at the location of the book cover?
- 06/09/2009 11:49:06 AM
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Two Things
- 07/09/2009 12:25:31 AM
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My thoughts are that the main page is being crowded by too many duplicate threads
- 07/09/2009 10:23:41 PM
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I know why Rand is mad at Egwene...read inside to find out
- 11/09/2009 03:15:00 AM
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Ummm... the embassy's proposal was accepted, and (presumably) communicated to Egwene at the earliest *NM*
- 11/09/2009 04:16:31 AM
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Semirhage isn't scaring anyone
- 28/09/2009 02:32:34 PM
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Indeed...
- 28/09/2009 03:36:55 PM
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Will the Chosen pass that edict down or just not act themselves?
- 28/09/2009 10:29:53 PM
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