I am determined to prove, before it's revealed, that Lanfear killed Asmodean.
Tom Send a noteboard - 26/05/2010 05:36:59 AM
Presumably, Lanfear had three wishes available when visiting the Aelfinn (or is it the Eelfinn?). You know, the foxes. No one had been there for the longest time. "The longest time" said the fox, echoing Mat's thoughts (I'm referring to the only time we've ever seen the foxes and their musk-smelling lair, in The Shadow Rising).
It's not even clear that, in the Age of Legends, the protocols were understood by everyone, or that Mierin would have gone through the portal (or that people were permitted to use them generally). I'm of the opinion that, given the danger, only specific scholars focused on the Finns would have gone through the portals, and Mierin was studying other things (like Shaitan's prison).
Given this knowledge (and the way Mat stumbled into his wishes), I think it's easy to reconstruct what happened:
Lanfear has just fallen through the ter'angreal. She's just confronted Rand and realized that he is a lot more powerful than she thought he would be. He is a lot more powerful than he SHOULD be, given how she instructed Asmodean. She thinks he betrayed her.
She ends up in the room with the foxes, just like Mat did in The Shadow Rising. Like Mat, she doesn't understand what they're saying about honoring the ancient agreement and what they mean when they ask what she needs.
"I could just kill Asmodean!" she shrieks.
"Done".
She appears in Caemlyn, balefires Asmodean and returns. This is probably said before Moiraine can do anything. With an evil glint in her eye she decides to do something awful to Moiraine as her second wish.
"Done".
Her third wish is probably something silly and stupid, like "I want to look like Ilyena so Lews Therin will remember me and fall in love with me."
"Done."
Ah...but she didn't discuss payment, did she?
It's not even clear that, in the Age of Legends, the protocols were understood by everyone, or that Mierin would have gone through the portal (or that people were permitted to use them generally). I'm of the opinion that, given the danger, only specific scholars focused on the Finns would have gone through the portals, and Mierin was studying other things (like Shaitan's prison).
Given this knowledge (and the way Mat stumbled into his wishes), I think it's easy to reconstruct what happened:
Lanfear has just fallen through the ter'angreal. She's just confronted Rand and realized that he is a lot more powerful than she thought he would be. He is a lot more powerful than he SHOULD be, given how she instructed Asmodean. She thinks he betrayed her.
She ends up in the room with the foxes, just like Mat did in The Shadow Rising. Like Mat, she doesn't understand what they're saying about honoring the ancient agreement and what they mean when they ask what she needs.
"I could just kill Asmodean!" she shrieks.
"Done".
She appears in Caemlyn, balefires Asmodean and returns. This is probably said before Moiraine can do anything. With an evil glint in her eye she decides to do something awful to Moiraine as her second wish.
"Done".
Her third wish is probably something silly and stupid, like "I want to look like Ilyena so Lews Therin will remember me and fall in love with me."
"Done."
Ah...but she didn't discuss payment, did she?
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
I am determined to prove, before it's revealed, that Lanfear killed Asmodean.
- 26/05/2010 05:36:59 AM
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It's unlikely
- 26/05/2010 09:17:06 AM
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Re: It's unlikely
- 26/05/2010 02:04:08 PM
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Well...
- 26/05/2010 03:09:38 PM
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A few points
- 26/05/2010 03:50:12 PM
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Re: A few points
- 26/05/2010 04:07:15 PM
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Re: A few points
- 26/05/2010 04:23:39 PM
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Re: A few points
- 26/05/2010 05:26:27 PM
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Actually I believe...
- 26/05/2010 06:00:55 PM
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Re: Actually I believe...
- 26/05/2010 07:04:51 PM
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I think...
- 26/05/2010 07:35:16 PM
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Re: I think...
- 26/05/2010 07:47:19 PM
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IMO, the difference is that Ishy was strongly connected to the DO, when he died in TAR. *NM*
- 26/05/2010 07:55:47 PM
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Re: IMO, the difference is that Ishy was strongly connected to the DO, when he died in TAR.
- 26/05/2010 08:25:36 PM
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But Ishy channeled the TP; thus the DO was more aware of him in TAR. *NM*
- 26/05/2010 08:33:45 PM
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I don't see how that really makes a difference
- 26/05/2010 08:43:58 PM
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At least Asmo didn't channel the TP, when he died; this could be the difference to Ishy. *NM*
- 26/05/2010 08:46:44 PM
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Re: At least Asmo didn't channel the TP, when he died; this could be the difference to Ishy.
- 26/05/2010 09:23:10 PM
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Well, the TP is not related to who killed Asmo, in my view
- 26/05/2010 09:34:42 PM
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That doesn't make sense
- 26/05/2010 09:40:10 PM
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That has nothing to do with the identity of the killer.
- 26/05/2010 09:56:18 PM
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I still think you are making this more convluted than it needs to be
- 26/05/2010 10:21:26 PM
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You confuse two things...
- 27/05/2010 09:46:56 AM
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But your theory completely relies on this thought
- 27/05/2010 11:48:48 AM
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I argue...
- 27/05/2010 12:20:09 PM
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we don't know any of that until WH
- 27/05/2010 12:49:53 PM
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Your explanation how the "where" is significant matches what I've been saying for awhile, too. *NM*
- 29/05/2010 09:49:02 PM
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You disregard Jordan's explanations about the Finns... and some others...
- 26/05/2010 12:50:30 PM
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I'm 80% sure it's Graendal, with 20% left over for Moghedien
- 26/05/2010 02:00:09 PM
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Moghedien would be quite the trick
- 26/05/2010 02:17:57 PM
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Re: Moghedien would be quite the trick
- 26/05/2010 02:26:23 PM
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Re: Moghedien would be quite the trick
- 26/05/2010 03:06:49 PM
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Yep. More impressive than the guy who was killed by a shepherd, right? =)
- 27/05/2010 03:44:07 PM
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