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you are misreading me I think darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 27/05/2010 03:11:50 PM
If the a'dam prevented a non-channeling Dreamwalker from accessing Tel'Aran'Rhiod, it would indicate that abilities not reliant on access to the One Power are indeed stymied.

Otherwise, all we have seen is that physical movements and the use of the One Power to remove it is denied. In fact you can use the One Power to explore the a'dam without the Power being impeded, implying that the collar houses a Binding that works similar to the Three Oaths.

We've basically never seen a channeling Dreamwalker collared because none of the Wise Ones have had to deal with it and access to T'A'R itself is not dependent or connected to the One Power, while having access to the OP bolsters certain abilities there.


I don't think the a'dam would work on a non-channeling Dreamwalker. The a'dam only affects a Channeler. But it has clear affect on non-channeling aspects of her too. I think it dampens her abilities in multiple ways.
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shucks everyone already thought of this... *NM* - 27/05/2010 07:08:50 PM 393 Views
problem solved... sort of? - 28/05/2010 02:48:13 AM 979 Views
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