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Look at what he has seen... Cannoli Send a noteboard - 06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM
Rand is crazy, or to be more accurate, becoming psychotic. Psychotic people do and say illogical things. I personally think that this statement is simply an extreme example of the extent of Rand's paranoia and psychosis.

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Not real reasons you or me can understand, perhaps, but withing Rand's mind, at least, there has to be some kind of justification. From outside, Rand's actions do point to madness, but notice that from his PoV, there's a logical reason for all her does. His rant against Egwene flies on the face of that.


It is consistent with everything she has seen, always taking the side of the Salidar faction, refusing to give him information they want kept secret, attempting to manipulate him against Salidar's enemies while plainly respecting those enemy sisters more than him, and suggesting they are on his side when his own experience reveals absolutely nothing of the kind. The Tower's betrayal of him might have been a more egregious violation, but the Salidar embassy has more offenses to their credit. They immediately took a woman who had violated and assaulted him into their confidence, belligerantly and unjustifiably confronted him in defiance of any reasonable expectations of an embassy to a ruler, and then ignored his requirements for contacting him again, while attempting to assert their dominance at Dumai's Wells. Even after swearing fealty to him, they showed more sympathy and loyalty to his captive tormentors, and attempted to take charge of his affairs while obeying him only with the greatest reluctance. And these are the people Egwene is not only loyal to, but has chosen to lead (and the reputation affects the leader more than the group - will Elayne & Egwene think better of the Children of the Light for being under Galad or will they think worse of him for taking command of them? ), suborning his most trusted general to her purpose (no one thinks Tenobia will be happy about her uncle & top general serving the Dragon Reborn, so why should anyone expect Rand to be sanguine about Mat serving the Aes Sedai? ), and inducing the sister he trusts above all others to encourage him to go to Egwene.

From there he has sent Narishma & Merise with his offer of bonding the Asha'man, and Egwene never even received them, leaving them for her flunkies to handle. How would Egwene take it if she sent a personal embassy to Rand, asking after him, and he never saw them, but left them to be heard by Mazrim Taim & the Illian Council of Nine? And of course, Narishma has reported that a sister from Egwene's followers has perfected a means of detecting male channelers, which is indicative of a great deal of effort in the matter - plainly this is a high priority for the rebels. Rand's offer was met with a good deal of interest as Romanda and Lelaine's dialogue plainly indicates the offer dovetails with an item on the rebel agenda, which they discuss using terms like "control" and speaking of meeting their purposes. Egwene's followers plainly have some specific intentions towards the Asha'man or male channelers in general, and things like detecting saidin, and controlling the men in question are involved. They show no particular friendship or interest, and react with fear or revulsion to Narishma. Does this look like the acts of a friendly group? But what about the last time any of Rand's followers had direct contact with Egwene? What happened then? Why Logain was threatened with murder or gentling in a discussion Egwene initiated regarding Rand's amnesty. She asked Logain's opinion and intimated that the rebel sisters, despite that amnesty and all that Logain had done for their cause, might ignore it, gentle him or even execute or murder him. Do you think he would have let Rand's proposal for the Asha'man to be bonded by Ewgene's followers without mentioning his own experiences at their hands? Not to mention his own story of what happened when he was restored to the Power hardly reflects well on their attitude toward male channelers. And Rand is not all that unreasonable in tarring Egwene with the same brush as her followers. Did she not do the same thing with Mat and the Dragonsworn in LoC?

Given everything that has gone on, plus Rand always having his finger on the pulse of Egwene's ambitions, his comment about another notch on her belt is not out of the blue, and considering his final words to Egwene way back in Fal Dara included the expectation that she would probably want to gentle him when next they met, neither is this a totally new sentiment. Even now, he is probably exaggerating, but this is hardly a new extreme train of thought that blossommed out of nowhere in Rand. Right or wrong as his belief may be, it is not inconsistent or unsupported by his experiences and information. And if you don't know by now that people react to and act upon what they perceive to be reality and the truth, however mistakenly, you have made it through 11 books of WoT without ever realizing what it is about.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
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