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I never said that's all they were Sidious Send a noteboard - 03/06/2010 08:49:53 AM

All 3 of his current women offer specific necessities the Dragon can't live without. Min and her viewing, Aviendha brings the Aiel and Elayne the AS. There seems to be Prophetic things involved with them as well ... 3 women on a boat and all that. I'm convinced there will be something else that requires there to be 3 individuals with different abilities ... perhaps the 3 become 1 thing is about them... who knows.


Actually Rand can do without all of those things. Min's viewing is useless to everyone, and has never helped a character in the series. It's more vague than Foretelling. Aviendha didn't bring the Aiel - Rand did that. He just happened to find an Aiel he fell in love with. Elayne definitely never brought the AS - Rand is more estranged than ever. The three individuals may have a combined function for a later stage, but I tend to think that the foretelling has more to do with the fact that the three are with him after TG than anything metaphysical.

I doubt very much that looks or OP strength have anything to do with Rand, especially since Min can't channel at all! If the Pattern wanted a "more suitable" mate for Rand it would have spun such a woman out. The fact that it didn't tells me that the Pattern actually needed these 3 woman to be separate individuals for a specific reason.


Please show me where I mentioned that OP strength was an issue, or even a consideration. You've mentioned that Elayne's contribution to Rand was that she links the AS to him, but you find it unlikely that Rand would benefit from women who know about the other side of the OP, or can relate to his own gifts. As for looks, since when is it unlikely that a man would find looks relevant while seeking out a mate?

On a side note I find it rather funny that you think Mierin was the "ultimate woman", except for that pesky personality which lead her to be one of the most evil beings of all time ... beauty and OP strength do not make someone "higher quality", IMO she's one of the most flawed characters in the books. So much so that ALL she is is beauty and OP strength. Painfully cliche actually.


That's all she is now, but she wasn't always that way. Obviously after serving the Shadow for so many years she's been stripped of any virtues or humanity she might have had. Before the Bore she was merely susceptible to the Dark One - she was not nearly as cultivated in evil as she is now.

Early in the series I thought she was a great character, but over the years I've lost all interest in her because she's kind of pathetic, this is a person who could have done anything she wanted but instead acts like a spoiled child and completely focuses on what she can't have. She's also become so completely predictable that she's not even fun to read about anymore. Personally I'm glad that she's Mindtrapped, at least that way she's got errands to run and stays out of the way.


So people are the same forever? Is it inconceivable that she was once a relatively accomplished woman with a little too much ambition who was pulled by the promises of power by the Dark One?
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