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Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM
Semirhage means Lady of Pain.

But translations may prove difficult. RJ says he has the meanings of all the Forsaken names, it it will no doubt appear in the encyclopedia.

But he also said that he didn't develop a complete Old Tongue language, and that he pretty much used words as and when necessary.

So we might well see a situation where the actual syllables and meaning of a Forsaken name don't match up as far as the Old Tongue is concerned, or contradicts other uses of the same phrase.

Demandred might be "Lord of Hate" but something like Lord may already have been given as the "Gai" in Gai' shain, which means Battle Lord or something.

This is a stupid example, and may be totally incorrect, as I can't actually remember exactly what Gai Shain means, but I think you see the point I'm trying to make.
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2105 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1403 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 1693 Views
You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1304 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1153 Views
On Be'lal - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1089 Views
Nice ideas! - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1214 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1026 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 980 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1069 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 620 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1357 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1173 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1069 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 637 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1126 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 965 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1035 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 977 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1257 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1043 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1037 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1090 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1077 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 941 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 543 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 695 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 565 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 540 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 461 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 548 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 586 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1080 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 979 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1085 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1194 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1164 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1126 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1075 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1061 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3416 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1053 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 940 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1040 Views
I think it's shown well - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1172 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1166 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1102 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 910 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 887 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1096 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 932 Views
- 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1051 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1065 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1078 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 974 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 935 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1012 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1053 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1037 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1069 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 928 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 516 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1128 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1057 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1102 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1097 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1016 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 612 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1249 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 966 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1064 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1141 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1153 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1027 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1206 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 576 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1250 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 424 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 583 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 522 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 782 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7177 Views

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