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Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... Shannow Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM
Semirhage means Lady of Pain.

But translations may prove difficult. RJ says he has the meanings of all the Forsaken names, it it will no doubt appear in the encyclopedia.

But he also said that he didn't develop a complete Old Tongue language, and that he pretty much used words as and when necessary.

So we might well see a situation where the actual syllables and meaning of a Forsaken name don't match up as far as the Old Tongue is concerned, or contradicts other uses of the same phrase.

Demandred might be "Lord of Hate" but something like Lord may already have been given as the "Gai" in Gai' shain, which means Battle Lord or something.

This is a stupid example, and may be totally incorrect, as I can't actually remember exactly what Gai Shain means, but I think you see the point I'm trying to make.
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Forsaken translations - 17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM 2567 Views
Yeah... - 17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM 1840 Views
Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand... - 17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM 2185 Views
You are right... - 17/06/2010 11:31:05 AM 1746 Views
Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames? - 17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM 1674 Views
On Be'lal - 17/06/2010 11:42:31 AM 1520 Views
Nice ideas! - 17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM 1651 Views
Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle - 17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM 1475 Views
Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use - 17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM 1433 Views
Presumably he meant "Dai Shan", or "Battle Lord", as he said. - 17/06/2010 10:37:07 PM 1502 Views
or that *NM* - 17/06/2010 10:45:49 PM 856 Views
About Aginor - 17/06/2010 12:50:04 PM 1947 Views
Great! - 17/06/2010 02:11:47 PM 1638 Views
Some Old Tongue translations - 17/06/2010 01:34:18 PM 1539 Views
ah Thanks! *NM* - 17/06/2010 02:12:00 PM 847 Views
Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 02:36:36 PM 1606 Views
Re: Good luck with that - 17/06/2010 03:24:52 PM 1424 Views
Very interesting! - 17/06/2010 08:34:36 PM 1576 Views
As always, - 20/06/2010 02:25:07 PM 1407 Views
I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation - 17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM 1744 Views
it's the other way around... - 17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM 1481 Views
good point - 17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM 1473 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM 1512 Views
Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name - 17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM 1500 Views
What about Cyndane - 17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM 1395 Views
It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM* - 17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 769 Views
Well she earned Mierin *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM 891 Views
how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 795 Views
she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM 755 Views
HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM 682 Views
well she earned Eronaile by virtue of her genetics *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:04:36 PM 765 Views
Tee hee ... I'd credit her father on that one *NM* - 17/06/2010 09:31:19 PM 810 Views
Re: good point - 17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM 1570 Views
Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive - 17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM 1475 Views
I disagree - 17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM 1541 Views
Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM 1662 Views
Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff - 17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM 1604 Views
Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM 1527 Views
Re: Disagree - 17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM 1470 Views
I'm not being very clear - 17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM 1489 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM 3948 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM 1495 Views
Re: I'm not being very clear - 18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM 1357 Views
The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown. - 18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM 1522 Views
I think it's shown well - 18/06/2010 06:10:55 PM 1674 Views
your own examples show only OP prowess though! - 18/06/2010 06:54:38 PM 1606 Views
How can you say Semirhage didn't achieve anything? - 18/06/2010 01:59:44 AM 1546 Views
I'm partial to Sammael myself. - 18/06/2010 02:24:49 AM 1376 Views
The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive - 17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM 1312 Views
I don't see that bearing out in the text at all - 17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM 1511 Views
Well, with this point I don't disagree.. *NM* - 17/06/2010 11:10:34 PM 1415 Views
- 17/06/2010 11:12:58 PM 1547 Views
Lanfear's motives were never Shadow-driven - 20/06/2010 06:47:22 PM 1551 Views
not ballsy, just psycho - 20/06/2010 07:25:46 PM 1515 Views
Like Etzel I don't agree - 17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM 1407 Views
I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM 1359 Views
Re: I think she's a weak villain - 17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM 1470 Views
Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations - 18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM 1466 Views
Regarding "Demandred" ... - 17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM 1490 Views
I always thought it was a coincidence - 17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM 1622 Views
Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM 1442 Views
Wow. I'm not quite sure where this came from... *NM* - 18/06/2010 05:24:25 PM 746 Views
Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence... - 20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM 1551 Views
No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 20/06/2010 07:23:19 PM 1514 Views
Re: No, it was supposed to be a joke. - 21/06/2010 06:36:44 AM 1510 Views
Re: I always thought it was a coincidence - 18/06/2010 05:20:11 PM 1533 Views
Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM 1513 Views
Interesting *NM* - 17/06/2010 08:33:03 PM 841 Views
Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense - 18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM 1712 Views
Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 18/06/2010 05:28:41 PM 1407 Views
We also have din in Mera'din/Brotherless and far in Far Madding - 18/06/2010 08:16:14 PM 1511 Views
Re: Regarding "Far Dareis Mai" ... - 20/06/2010 03:56:38 AM 1691 Views
And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM 1616 Views
Re: And Dragon translations... - 17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM 1439 Views
But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon - 18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM 1674 Views
Ah yes, that sounds reasonable. *NM* - 18/06/2010 08:28:54 PM 801 Views
If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too... - 20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM 1692 Views
"Dragon Wannabe" *NM* - 20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM 644 Views
Lizard? *NM* - 20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM 838 Views
"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM* - 22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM 730 Views
It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words... - 17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM 1250 Views
A nice article about the Old Tongue and my ramblings - 18/06/2010 11:14:24 AM 7665 Views

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