... I think it's worth noting the similarity to Moiraine's family name "Damodred". That doesn't really help with guessing a translation, but given the sketchy nature of the Damodred clan, I've always thought it no coincidence that RJ chose a name similar to one of the Forsaken, for them.
Also, just to add a little bit to Dom's comments on Lanfear ... "an" is often used to mean "of the". For example, Shaidar Haran translates to "Hand of the Dark", where "Shaidar" is "Dark" and "Haran" is "Hand of the" ("Har", or perhaps "Hara" meaning "hand" ).
And "Carai an Caldazar" means "For the Honor of the Red Eagle" (Caldazar = Rea Eagle, Carai = Honor, "an" = of the, presumably - "For the" is probably just implied).
So, if Dom's specualtion that "La" means "daughter" is correct, then "Lan" could just be shortened form of "La-an", meaning "Daughter of the". In that case, the meaning of "Lan", Nynaeve's guy, may be entirely unrelated.
Also, just to add a little bit to Dom's comments on Lanfear ... "an" is often used to mean "of the". For example, Shaidar Haran translates to "Hand of the Dark", where "Shaidar" is "Dark" and "Haran" is "Hand of the" ("Har", or perhaps "Hara" meaning "hand" ).
And "Carai an Caldazar" means "For the Honor of the Red Eagle" (Caldazar = Rea Eagle, Carai = Honor, "an" = of the, presumably - "For the" is probably just implied).
So, if Dom's specualtion that "La" means "daughter" is correct, then "Lan" could just be shortened form of "La-an", meaning "Daughter of the". In that case, the meaning of "Lan", Nynaeve's guy, may be entirely unrelated.
I think that the Damodred/Demandred was a coincidence, and no more important than Lan/Lanfear or Be'lal/Bael.
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17/06/2010 09:16:36 AM
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Yeah...
17/06/2010 09:31:15 AM
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Semirhage is named as "The Lady of Pain" in KoD, by Rand...
17/06/2010 11:14:56 AM
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Do Semirhage & Bel'al actually mean those things or are they other nicknames?
17/06/2010 11:38:18 AM
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Nice ideas!
17/06/2010 02:10:43 PM
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The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten
17/06/2010 02:48:19 PM
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Re: The beauty of a re-read is that there are so many little gems I'd forgotten
17/06/2010 04:43:48 PM
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Gai'shain = those sworn to peace in battle
17/06/2010 09:22:02 PM
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Gaidin = Brother to Battle ... which is what I think the OP meant to use
17/06/2010 09:32:20 PM
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I always thought Lanfear probably translated to something closer to a Moon translation
17/06/2010 02:43:04 PM
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it's the other way around...
17/06/2010 02:58:33 PM
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good point
17/06/2010 03:13:17 PM
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Re: good point
17/06/2010 04:05:50 PM
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Not to mention she STILL hasn't earned a 3rd (or in 4th) name
17/06/2010 04:16:57 PM
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What about Cyndane
17/06/2010 04:48:03 PM
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It must be her favorite one, since it's the only one she actually earned *NM*
17/06/2010 05:43:41 PM
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Well she earned Mierin *NM*
17/06/2010 08:27:05 PM
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how so? I figured mom and dad gave that one too her *NM*
17/06/2010 08:36:24 PM
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she earned it by being born... ha! gotcha *NM*
17/06/2010 08:39:10 PM
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HA! But technically I think her mother earned that *NM*
17/06/2010 08:58:30 PM
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Re: good point
17/06/2010 04:47:01 PM
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Again, a self-proclaimed ownership aimed at making her seem more impressive
17/06/2010 05:55:12 PM
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I disagree
17/06/2010 06:20:08 PM
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Personally I think that order was off the cuff
17/06/2010 08:55:28 PM
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Re: Personally I think that order was off the cuff
17/06/2010 09:02:06 PM
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Disagree
17/06/2010 09:28:51 PM
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Re: Disagree
17/06/2010 09:41:23 PM
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I'm not being very clear
17/06/2010 10:14:10 PM
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Re: I'm not being very clear
18/06/2010 08:06:56 AM
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Re: I'm not being very clear
18/06/2010 03:33:12 PM
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Re: I'm not being very clear
18/06/2010 04:35:12 PM
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The point isn't if Lanfear has the skill, it's that it was poorly shown.
18/06/2010 05:31:11 PM
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The statement makes clear that those 6 were all quite impressive
17/06/2010 10:51:49 PM
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I don't see that bearing out in the text at all
17/06/2010 10:57:36 PM
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Like Etzel I don't agree
17/06/2010 08:30:37 PM
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I think she's a weak villain
17/06/2010 08:58:01 PM
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Re: I think she's a weak villain
17/06/2010 09:03:47 PM
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and slaughter the Seanchan empress on her own throne thowing the empire into chaos
17/06/2010 09:30:27 PM
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Semirhage has done more than anyone since Ishy destroyed the Ten Nations
18/06/2010 02:06:30 AM
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Regarding "Demandred" ...
17/06/2010 04:51:43 PM
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I always thought it was a coincidence
17/06/2010 08:32:39 PM
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Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence...
18/06/2010 12:19:58 AM
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Re: Lan/Lanfear isn't a coincidence...
20/06/2010 07:01:55 PM
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Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense
17/06/2010 06:00:35 PM
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Re: Perhaps Lan-fear meaning Night-Daughter would make more sense
18/06/2010 04:23:38 PM
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And Dragon translations...
17/06/2010 10:53:02 PM
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Re: And Dragon translations...
17/06/2010 11:01:25 PM
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Why would they call themselves "Spears of the fictional creature"?
18/06/2010 12:29:49 AM
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It was meant as a joke, but really it could be some generic term rather than meaning
18/06/2010 06:00:36 AM
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Except that they don't know what a 'Dragon' is, except as it relates to Lews Therin/Rand
18/06/2010 05:11:30 PM
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like I said, I was just making a joke of it ... you are quite right with "Rand's Spears"
18/06/2010 05:32:42 PM
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But of course the NT word for Dragon isn't Dragon
18/06/2010 05:45:34 PM
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If "aman" is the Old Tongue name for Dragon, maybe "DEMANdred" contains a reference to Dragon too...
20/06/2010 08:13:35 PM
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"Dragon Wannabe" *NM*
20/06/2010 09:23:09 PM
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Lizard? *NM*
20/06/2010 10:04:21 PM
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"Scaled Worm"... though I doubt he'd take that name up in pride . *NM*
22/06/2010 01:23:03 AM
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It's probably too much to attempt to guess at the meanings of words...
17/06/2010 10:58:06 PM
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