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Ĵust to point out the obvious... DomA Send a noteboard - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM
Cadsuane and the WO aren't the only ones who could deduce Cadsuane kept the domination band and where. She intended to test it eventually on an Asha'man, but still had to convince Rand to let her (she had made another attempt in chapter one). Her followers and probably pretty much everyone present at Semirhage's capture probably knew about that (it's when Cadsuane grabbed the objects...). Cadsuane had promised Rand it was safe.

Most importantly, notice that at the first meeting with Cadsuane upon their arrival, Bair and Sorilea already knew Cadsuane had male/female a'dam and took the initiative to ask her about that. Cadsuane wasn't in any way surprised that they knew. They knew she was the one keeping them. So, it wasn't a secret that Cadsuane had the DM.

Her hiding place wasn't quite "clever": in her room, in a trunk. Riiiight. No one would search her room first, no one would look in her trunk after trying her jewels box. Cadsuane sinned by overconfidence. She thinks she has everyone under control, and that inverted weaves can't be detected. She was wrong.

The other obvious fact: Cadsuane has not even wondered (nor Nynaeve, nor the WO) how the Shadow could find the DM. There was no hunt for the DF who led Elza/Semirhage to it, for the good reason everyone knew Elza needed no one telling her Cadsuane had the DM, and Cadsuane's hding place had been all too obvious to any BA in the group, and Elza/Semirhage just had to wait until Cadsuane was out of the building to steal it. Had Bair and Sorilea been the only ones to know, Cadsuane would have suspected them immediately.

We also know it's Shaidar Haran who made Elza steal the DB. It's probably him who could detect wards. Most likely he asked Elza in the first place where the a'dam taken from Semirhage were. Elza answered "probably in Cadsuane's room". SH made her search it, they found the warded trunk, and SH taught Elza how to unravel the ward (yes, she probably used the TP for that. SH couldn't do it itself because of limitations to its interaction with the physical world).
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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3756 Views
Maybe they found it with need? - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1075 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1383 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1189 Views
Another good point. - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1154 Views
A good point. - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 940 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1114 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1203 Views
Would that work, I wonder? - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 995 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 791 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1029 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 962 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1093 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 904 Views
I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1027 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1076 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1006 Views
I agree - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 1009 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 989 Views
I agree as well - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 907 Views
Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 810 Views
Re: Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 769 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 980 Views
It seems... - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 920 Views
Re: It seems... - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 940 Views
Hmmm.... - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 736 Views
Good points - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1077 Views
That's a good observation - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 934 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 849 Views
Some thoughts - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 826 Views
Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 901 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1064 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 881 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 988 Views
About use of the TP - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1008 Views
UR WRONG - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 923 Views
AM NOT111 - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 746 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 803 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 903 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 716 Views
I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 854 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 924 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 838 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 858 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 975 Views
you are likley correct - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 807 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 936 Views

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