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Ĵust to point out the obvious... DomA Send a noteboard - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM
Cadsuane and the WO aren't the only ones who could deduce Cadsuane kept the domination band and where. She intended to test it eventually on an Asha'man, but still had to convince Rand to let her (she had made another attempt in chapter one). Her followers and probably pretty much everyone present at Semirhage's capture probably knew about that (it's when Cadsuane grabbed the objects...). Cadsuane had promised Rand it was safe.

Most importantly, notice that at the first meeting with Cadsuane upon their arrival, Bair and Sorilea already knew Cadsuane had male/female a'dam and took the initiative to ask her about that. Cadsuane wasn't in any way surprised that they knew. They knew she was the one keeping them. So, it wasn't a secret that Cadsuane had the DM.

Her hiding place wasn't quite "clever": in her room, in a trunk. Riiiight. No one would search her room first, no one would look in her trunk after trying her jewels box. Cadsuane sinned by overconfidence. She thinks she has everyone under control, and that inverted weaves can't be detected. She was wrong.

The other obvious fact: Cadsuane has not even wondered (nor Nynaeve, nor the WO) how the Shadow could find the DM. There was no hunt for the DF who led Elza/Semirhage to it, for the good reason everyone knew Elza needed no one telling her Cadsuane had the DM, and Cadsuane's hding place had been all too obvious to any BA in the group, and Elza/Semirhage just had to wait until Cadsuane was out of the building to steal it. Had Bair and Sorilea been the only ones to know, Cadsuane would have suspected them immediately.

We also know it's Shaidar Haran who made Elza steal the DB. It's probably him who could detect wards. Most likely he asked Elza in the first place where the a'dam taken from Semirhage were. Elza answered "probably in Cadsuane's room". SH made her search it, they found the warded trunk, and SH taught Elza how to unravel the ward (yes, she probably used the TP for that. SH couldn't do it itself because of limitations to its interaction with the physical world).
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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3970 Views
Maybe they found it with need? - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1281 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1575 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1389 Views
Another good point. - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1342 Views
A good point. - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 1122 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1329 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1389 Views
Would that work, I wonder? - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 1223 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 1041 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1248 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 1141 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1321 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 1111 Views
I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1255 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1310 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1223 Views
I agree - 28/06/2010 10:10:04 PM 1238 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 1186 Views
I agree as well - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 1112 Views
Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 1017 Views
Re: Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 960 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 1196 Views
It seems... - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 1133 Views
Re: It seems... - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 1123 Views
Hmmm.... - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 942 Views
Good points - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1323 Views
That's a good observation - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 1124 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 1086 Views
Some thoughts - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 1049 Views
Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 1141 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1294 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 1127 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 1213 Views
About use of the TP - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1233 Views
UR WRONG - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 1111 Views
AM NOT111 - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 932 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 989 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 1074 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 907 Views
I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 1066 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 1125 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 1065 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 1041 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 1230 Views
you are likley correct - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 1012 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 1177 Views

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