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Good points DomA Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM
Actually SH can affect/move Sammael's bag with a spear he takes and later even burns this spear with the TP in PoD, ch.40. Thus, he can at least in certain ways affect some objects (maybe not OP objects, though?). I guess in any case, that he can only use the TP against objects and DF at the moment.


Perhaps it's OP objects he won't touch, indeed. The OP is inimical to the TP, and vice versa.

Another possibility is that his ability to interact with the world is limited. It may all be a bit like TAR for him, if you wish. He can touch objects and people, but his will must be totally focussed on it, and if he slips the object would return to where it's supposed to be in the Pattern, or disappear. It's a possibility, after all Shai'tan is able to shape reality around the Pit a bit like dreamwalkers can do in TAR.

Another possibility is that it's not picking and touching objects SH can't do, it's bringing them with him when he "shadow-travels" the Myddraal way (some speculate it involves stepping out of the Pattern to re enter it in another "shadow-zone", that Myrddraal can spot these zones of shadow in the pattern. Perhaps objects from the Pattern can't survive this travel, and this is why the Myddraal bind their swords with a human soul...). To steal the DM himself, he may have had to move out of Cadsuane's room and all the way to where Semirhage was held the mundane way (which was not exactly a good plan!). We know he can bring people with him (he did it to Moghedien), but maybe not inanimate objects with no soul. The Myddraal's clothes don't interact with the world the normal way.





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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3756 Views
Maybe they found it with need? - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1076 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1384 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1190 Views
Another good point. - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1155 Views
A good point. - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 941 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1115 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1204 Views
Would that work, I wonder? - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 997 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 792 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1029 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 963 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1094 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 905 Views
I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1028 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1077 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1006 Views
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Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 991 Views
I agree as well - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 908 Views
Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 811 Views
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Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 981 Views
It seems... - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 921 Views
Re: It seems... - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 941 Views
Hmmm.... - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 738 Views
Good points - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1079 Views
That's a good observation - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 934 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 850 Views
Some thoughts - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 827 Views
Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 902 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1065 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 882 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 989 Views
About use of the TP - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1008 Views
UR WRONG - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 924 Views
AM NOT111 - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 747 Views
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"Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 904 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 717 Views
I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 855 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 926 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 839 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 859 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 977 Views
you are likley correct - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 808 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 937 Views

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