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Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* Etzel Send a noteboard - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM
Actually SH can affect/move Sammael's bag with a spear he takes and later even burns this spear with the TP in PoD, ch.40. Thus, he can at least in certain ways affect some objects (maybe not OP objects, though?). I guess in any case, that he can only use the TP against objects and DF at the moment.


Perhaps it's OP objects he won't touch, indeed. The OP is inimical to the TP, and vice versa.

Another possibility is that his ability to interact with the world is limited. It may all be a bit like TAR for him, if you wish. He can touch objects and people, but his will must be totally focussed on it, and if he slips the object would return to where it's supposed to be in the Pattern, or disappear. It's a possibility, after all Shai'tan is able to shape reality around the Pit a bit like dreamwalkers can do in TAR.

Another possibility is that it's not picking and touching objects SH can't do, it's bringing them with him when he "shadow-travels" the Myddraal way (some speculate it involves stepping out of the Pattern to re enter it in another "shadow-zone", that Myrddraal can spot these zones of shadow in the pattern. Perhaps objects from the Pattern can't survive this travel, and this is why the Myddraal bind their swords with a human soul...). To steal the DM himself, he may have had to move out of Cadsuane's room and all the way to where Semirhage was held the mundane way (which was not exactly a good plan!). We know he can bring people with him (he did it to Moghedien), but maybe not inanimate objects with no soul. The Myddraal's clothes don't interact with the world the normal way.





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So, Is Bair a Darkfriend, or Sorilea? - 27/06/2010 09:19:22 AM 3942 Views
Maybe they found it with need? - 27/06/2010 11:28:44 AM 1263 Views
But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 27/06/2010 01:18:52 PM 1548 Views
I brought up the potential for Sorilea in the past - 27/06/2010 03:02:51 PM 1363 Views
Another good point. - 29/06/2010 11:43:11 AM 1318 Views
A good point. - 29/06/2010 11:38:51 AM 1104 Views
Re: But Semirhage didn't find it. Elsa did, or SH. - 29/06/2010 09:36:03 PM 1306 Views
yeah, Verin Compelled all the captive AS in the Aiel camp - 29/06/2010 09:41:33 PM 1369 Views
Would that work, I wonder? - 29/06/2010 11:24:42 AM 1201 Views
Re: Maybe they found it with need? - 08/07/2010 07:18:04 AM 1012 Views
What if it was Shadar Haran that found it? - 27/06/2010 05:01:52 PM 1234 Views
It's possible, but not likely, IMHO. - 29/06/2010 11:46:08 AM 1123 Views
Ĵust to point out the obvious... - 27/06/2010 05:58:55 PM 1293 Views
You really think Elza used the TP? - 28/06/2010 05:35:20 AM 1094 Views
I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 07:56:10 AM 1234 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 01:48:10 PM 1282 Views
Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 06:50:57 PM 1202 Views
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Re: I think the chance of that is zero - 28/06/2010 11:17:19 PM 1159 Views
I agree as well - 29/06/2010 09:20:10 AM 1088 Views
Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 07:12:26 AM 990 Views
Re: Sensing the TP - 01/07/2010 08:56:42 AM 934 Views
Physical limitations make sense, BUT...: - 29/06/2010 12:30:33 PM 1171 Views
It seems... - 29/06/2010 01:30:17 PM 1111 Views
Re: It seems... - 29/06/2010 06:45:19 PM 1097 Views
Hmmm.... - 29/06/2010 07:08:30 PM 923 Views
Good points - 29/06/2010 08:16:43 PM 1301 Views
That's a good observation - 29/06/2010 08:36:24 PM 1101 Views
Yeah, that would make some sense! *NM* - 30/06/2010 09:59:07 AM 1062 Views
Some thoughts - 30/06/2010 12:15:25 PM 1010 Views
Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 05:42:29 AM 1123 Views
Re: Elza didn't use the true power - 28/06/2010 01:53:32 PM 1271 Views
It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 12:23:42 PM 1101 Views
Re: It doesn't appear that anything else in her room was searched. - 29/06/2010 06:12:14 PM 1191 Views
About use of the TP - 29/06/2010 08:59:47 PM 1205 Views
UR WRONG - 27/06/2010 11:09:35 PM 1086 Views
AM NOT111 - 29/06/2010 12:32:09 PM 907 Views
I tend to doubt that one of them is a DF - 29/06/2010 09:45:58 AM 970 Views
"Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 12:37:09 PM 1052 Views
Re: "Helping" can be a very subjective term. - 29/06/2010 06:31:11 PM 881 Views
I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 06:40:49 PM 1043 Views
Re: I think it is Sorilea - 29/06/2010 07:57:38 PM 1098 Views
I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 29/06/2010 08:31:01 PM 1042 Views
I agree that seems a bit too nasty for RJ - 30/06/2010 08:43:00 AM 1020 Views
Re: I like the Melaine theory, but a pregnant WO DF? RJ likes to punish his bad guys too much - 08/07/2010 02:20:32 PM 1210 Views
you are likley correct - 08/07/2010 03:09:33 PM 987 Views
Yes, Ingtar - wrong guy lol (posting from work) - 30/06/2010 12:30:54 PM 1146 Views

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