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But if this was the plan... Etzel Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM
You could also take the access key, then let Rand use the TP not only once but several times (without the CK as a "substitute drug" ). If Rand is then eventually completely evil, corrupted & addicted you might decide to give him the access key back to destroy everything. Otherwise Moridin or another DF might use it.

As it seems now, the supposed plan to corrupt Rand was again completely idiotic: 2 of the most powerful Forsaken are dead, while Min and Rand live even more happily.

This message last edited by Etzel on 26/07/2010 at 12:38:59 PM
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death RabidWombat - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1724 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed Etzel - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 923 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* Kieran - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 308 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 302 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 847 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM 827 Views
It's an interesting theory in either direction darius_sedai - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 776 Views
Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM 621 Views
BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM 649 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." DomA - 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM 686 Views
Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use." Datakim - 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM 666 Views
You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. redhand - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 698 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 651 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect BlackAdder - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 662 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect Datakim - 26/07/2010 02:30:11 AM 619 Views
^^^what Datakim said^^^ darius_sedai - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 652 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books RabidWombat - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 726 Views
You were right the first time DomA - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 764 Views
I think the question is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 684 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM 684 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM 695 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM 653 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM 723 Views
Re: I think the question is... DomA - 27/07/2010 05:08:59 AM 729 Views
Re: I think the question is... Datakim - 27/07/2010 05:59:37 PM 699 Views
I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 730 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Etzel - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 659 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Datakim - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 645 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 726 Views
But if this was the plan... Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 641 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it Matrimony Cauthon - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 744 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 654 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 602 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 625 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 286 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 574 Views
Are you certain? Fanatic-Templar - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 626 Views
Re: Are you certain? Sidious - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 672 Views
Re: Are you certain? Datakim - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 640 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* Japhy - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 264 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 593 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 631 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 649 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 679 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Datakim - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 642 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 651 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 738 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true DomA - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 692 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Sidious - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 595 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 634 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 649 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? Sidious - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 660 Views
If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM 639 Views
Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"? Mik - 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM 621 Views
It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam Matrimony Cauthon - 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM 609 Views
Not if Moridin sensed it, instead of seeing it. Mik - 27/07/2010 08:12:25 PM 616 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key DomA - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 605 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 611 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 656 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 621 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series Sidious - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 673 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series HyogaRott - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 592 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. TaskmasterJack - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 554 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability DomA - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 950 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* RabidWombat - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 293 Views
That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM* Mik - 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM 272 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 619 Views
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