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Re: I think the question is... DomA Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM

Logically, he must know immediately whenever someone attempts to draw on the True Power, because a) it's now been confirmed the DO is the True Power (BS confirmed LTT was right about this) and b) Jordan has always said having access to the True Power is a matter of the Dark One letting you access it, and no special connection between you and the DO need be established first.


Even though the TP may be the Dark Ones "essence", that does not necessarily have to mean that he has full control of it. To use an admittedly crude analogy, my blood could be said to be a part of me, just as TP is a part of DO. But if I go to a hospital to give blood, I have no idea where that blood goes. Same could apply here.




A bit too crude an analogy. It used to be a theory, that the TP was Shai'tan's blood/energy, but as far as we now know, the True Power isn't part of Shai'tan or an aspect of Shai'tan. What LTT said (and Brandon said was right) was : it is him, not "it comes from him". So it appears Shai'tan is a sentient energy field, aka The True Power.

Given how the Creator and Shai'tan are opposites, of course, it strongly suggests the OP and everything made of it (ie: all of Creation/the Pattern) is in the same way the Creator.

Creation itself is the reason why the Creator cannot "get involved" the way Shai'tan does. The Creator has invested all of itself into Creation. To fight Shai'tan directly would mean destroying parts of Creation to redirect this energy against Shai'tan. It is energy that has been "ordered", while the DO is pure chaotic energy. Shai'tan has built nothing, he is whole and still in energy form, while the Creator has ordered and transformed itself into matter, souls etc. and all the dimensions that form "Creation".

EDIT: Found it. Luckers made the theory in Dragonmount. ts is a bit long but has strong evidence (with quotes) to suggest that Rand&Moridins OP connections ARE linked.
http://forums.dragonmount.com/index.php/topic,57372.0.html


I find it quite inconclusive and here's why:

- There are other instances when Moridin and Rand feel what the other physically feel (much like Birgitte and Elayne do with each other). In TGS, Moridin feels Rand's "ghost limb" syndrom, for instance. It means Moridin's dizzyness could be explained the same way - he shares Rand's sickness when Rand embraces saidin. Rand's sickness is widely believed to be related to either one or the interaction of his two wounds, which exacerbates the dizzyness/nausea already caused by the Taint (also the TP) on saidin, Rand's dizzyness may not be caused because his "connection to the TS and Moridin's are fused", but simply Rand feels sick because whenever Moridin embraces the True Power, his two wounds make him sick. There's no good evidence that Moridin uses saidin on any regular basis anymore. The only instance where we've seen him contemplate the notion was because he could have an angreal, but even then he virtually shrugged it off.

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You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 697 Views
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^^^what Datakim said^^^ - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 650 Views
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Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 743 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 653 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 601 Views
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I fail to see the relevance. *NM* - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 284 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 572 Views
Are you certain? - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 624 Views
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key word is "necessary" *NM* - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 262 Views
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??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 649 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 658 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 603 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 610 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 656 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 621 Views
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Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 552 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 948 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 292 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 618 Views

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