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Re: Some thoughts about Semmy Sidious Send a noteboard - 13/09/2009 08:33:28 AM

Demandred, Lanfear, Semirhage, Graendal and Sammael could probably duel one another with unpredictable results, and the result would be 50-50 if they dueled a hundred times. It makes them inferior to Ishamael and Lews Therin, but not to each other.

I sincerely doubt that Semirhage is up to par with Sammael, Lanfear or Demandred when it comes to dueling, considering how badly she managed in Kod. She's certainly skilled in her area of expertise, but in a battle Demandred would overwhelm her before she could form a single one of her sophisticated torture weaves which she certainly would revert to using in a battle, same as Graendal would try to use Compulsion.

But Semirhage did not manage badly in KoD. There is no Forsaken who could have defeated Logain, Cadsuane, Nynaeve, Narishma and Sandomere at the same time. On the contrary, Nynaeve thinks that if she hadn't been holding the Power from the beginning, she would have been in trouble.

Also, Mesaana thinks she's as capable in the Power as Semmy, yet Mesaana is subservient-ish to Demandred. How then could Semmy and Demandred be equal in a OP duel?

Mesaana does not specifically mention the One Power, and she feels uneasy around Semirhage despite what she says. RJ also said that a Forsaken's estimation of their abilities is always a lie, because they are unwilling to admit any fallibility. Mesaana is also not subservient to Demandred on any account - she merely recognizes that he would have been the second most acclaimed man of the Age after Lews Therin. In KoD, Demandred and Semirhage flank Mesaana, and Semirhage shows no deference to Demandred at all.
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The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power - 12/09/2009 09:27:20 PM 1813 Views
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Re: Some thoughts about Semmy - 13/09/2009 08:33:28 AM 1055 Views
Of course... - 13/09/2009 08:36:39 AM 857 Views
I've been thinking the same for years - 12/09/2009 11:25:02 PM 967 Views
The Big White Book says... - 12/09/2009 11:46:43 PM 1032 Views
Not Aginor - 13/09/2009 08:36:37 AM 1034 Views
Re: Not Aginor - 13/09/2009 03:16:13 PM 933 Views
Re: Not Aginor - 13/09/2009 05:47:14 PM 987 Views
Fact is, the bwb is untrustworthy - 13/09/2009 05:54:28 PM 910 Views
We must either use all the quotes from the BWB or none of them - 13/09/2009 06:07:46 PM 944 Views
Or... - 13/09/2009 08:41:23 PM 879 Views
Re: Or... - 14/09/2009 04:46:52 AM 856 Views
But, RJ himself said that the BWB was written from the standpoint of a scholar - 14/09/2009 04:42:59 PM 887 Views
Re: Not Aginor - 13/09/2009 08:17:28 PM 849 Views
It all depends on how you define "powerful" - 14/09/2009 02:30:31 AM 964 Views
I agree 101%. *NM* - 14/09/2009 03:49:51 AM 488 Views
I think power is much more than raw strength - 14/09/2009 05:00:10 AM 853 Views
I agree for the most part, but disagree on one thing. - 14/09/2009 07:52:10 PM 1005 Views
Re: The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power - 12/09/2009 11:48:03 PM 895 Views
the other reason - 13/09/2009 03:24:24 PM 823 Views
So is graendal similar to lanfear then? - 13/09/2009 05:41:42 PM 829 Views
Graendal could fight Lanfear and win - 13/09/2009 06:01:57 PM 1385 Views
Graendal herself says... - 13/09/2009 09:08:46 PM 855 Views
Re: Graendal herself says... - 14/09/2009 04:48:37 AM 909 Views
Doesn't Graendal have an Angreal now? - 17/09/2009 03:29:10 AM 939 Views
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Lanfear was more powerful than Graendal, but Cyndane has less power - 13/09/2009 10:19:35 PM 864 Views
Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? - 13/09/2009 06:05:11 PM 1007 Views
I agree with this - 13/09/2009 06:15:24 PM 998 Views
Compulsion=any other deadly weave. Doesn't really change matters - 13/09/2009 10:23:40 PM 879 Views
Excellent point *NM* - 13/09/2009 10:35:08 PM 496 Views
But it did give her an edge, and against two forsaken. *NM* - 13/09/2009 11:12:09 PM 466 Views
Hm? When? *NM* - 14/09/2009 09:04:10 PM 404 Views
tPoD, when she compelled Cyndane and Moghedien. *NM* - 14/09/2009 10:19:23 PM 446 Views
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Using Compulsion on someone doesn't seem mechanically different - 14/09/2009 09:03:41 PM 769 Views
I'm not so sure about that - 14/09/2009 09:36:45 PM 864 Views
Totally agree - 14/09/2009 10:26:07 PM 687 Views
I don't agree. - 15/09/2009 04:33:04 PM 981 Views
Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? - 14/09/2009 04:34:24 PM 822 Views
But Graendal confronted her... twice! *NM* - 13/09/2009 07:48:29 PM 419 Views
Apparently only the third time counts *NM* - 13/09/2009 08:00:37 PM 459 Views
Really? - 13/09/2009 08:36:33 PM 835 Views
No falsely... - 13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM 1061 Views
That's pretty much my opinion in a nutshell - 14/09/2009 04:56:15 AM 1014 Views
And, of course, the male and female OP strength ranks might not even correlate that much - 14/09/2009 04:41:58 PM 787 Views
They correlate on some critical points - 14/09/2009 06:57:43 PM 971 Views
That's not exactly what I'm referring to. - 15/09/2009 04:36:29 PM 743 Views
But then we are discussing the same thing - 15/09/2009 06:59:04 PM 883 Views
I think, outside of semantics, our main disagreement doesn't lie amid the higher tiers - 16/09/2009 03:53:09 PM 751 Views
Probably - 16/09/2009 06:31:27 PM 900 Views
Re: Probably - 16/09/2009 07:19:03 PM 873 Views
Re: Probably - 16/09/2009 08:59:31 PM 829 Views
Re: Probably - 18/09/2009 07:03:09 PM 1167 Views
Ahh the old debate... - 17/09/2009 12:42:36 AM 835 Views
Re: Ahh the old debate... - 17/09/2009 05:26:52 AM 798 Views
I only disagree on one point, I think they are all rather equal in potential, incl. Ishamael - 14/09/2009 04:28:12 PM 857 Views
I do think Ishamel is special - 14/09/2009 07:04:03 PM 945 Views
He's special the same way any individual is special. - 14/09/2009 11:36:42 PM 894 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 08:36:20 AM 870 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 03:48:34 PM 862 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 04:39:39 PM 845 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 04:53:00 PM 849 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 06:47:45 PM 824 Views
The more interesting question is... - 14/09/2009 06:34:11 PM 786 Views
Hmmm - 14/09/2009 07:04:34 PM 836 Views
I think we'll see Graendal vs. Aran'gar. - 14/09/2009 07:31:16 PM 894 Views
Ah yes, that makes sense, and would be great! *NM* - 14/09/2009 07:40:29 PM 717 Views
Yeah. Though I think its no competition. Graendal has got to be better than a walking tree! - 14/09/2009 07:50:09 PM 784 Views
They do imply that Graendal is a lot more dangerous than she looks - 14/09/2009 09:08:43 PM 813 Views
I've never underestimated Graendal - 14/09/2009 09:42:49 PM 860 Views
Yeah... her frivolity was always a red flag for me too. - 14/09/2009 10:18:40 PM 895 Views
To me, she is the most lethal. - 15/09/2009 05:18:10 PM 657 Views
Yup... - 15/09/2009 06:39:20 PM 705 Views
I still like Lanfear more - 15/09/2009 06:51:03 PM 800 Views
Bah! She's an idiot! - 15/09/2009 07:06:06 PM 802 Views
only in love *NM* - 15/09/2009 07:23:29 PM 763 Views
Graendal did not beat me and Moghedien - 15/09/2009 05:59:39 PM 884 Views
Agreed - 15/09/2009 06:36:48 PM 783 Views
Ummm... how do we know? - 15/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 910 Views
Re: Ummm... how do we know? - 15/09/2009 06:56:21 PM 833 Views
Hmmm... - 15/09/2009 07:07:45 PM 1012 Views

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