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Re: Some thoughts about Semmy Sidious Send a noteboard - 13/09/2009 08:33:28 AM

Demandred, Lanfear, Semirhage, Graendal and Sammael could probably duel one another with unpredictable results, and the result would be 50-50 if they dueled a hundred times. It makes them inferior to Ishamael and Lews Therin, but not to each other.

I sincerely doubt that Semirhage is up to par with Sammael, Lanfear or Demandred when it comes to dueling, considering how badly she managed in Kod. She's certainly skilled in her area of expertise, but in a battle Demandred would overwhelm her before she could form a single one of her sophisticated torture weaves which she certainly would revert to using in a battle, same as Graendal would try to use Compulsion.

But Semirhage did not manage badly in KoD. There is no Forsaken who could have defeated Logain, Cadsuane, Nynaeve, Narishma and Sandomere at the same time. On the contrary, Nynaeve thinks that if she hadn't been holding the Power from the beginning, she would have been in trouble.

Also, Mesaana thinks she's as capable in the Power as Semmy, yet Mesaana is subservient-ish to Demandred. How then could Semmy and Demandred be equal in a OP duel?

Mesaana does not specifically mention the One Power, and she feels uneasy around Semirhage despite what she says. RJ also said that a Forsaken's estimation of their abilities is always a lie, because they are unwilling to admit any fallibility. Mesaana is also not subservient to Demandred on any account - she merely recognizes that he would have been the second most acclaimed man of the Age after Lews Therin. In KoD, Demandred and Semirhage flank Mesaana, and Semirhage shows no deference to Demandred at all.
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Re: Some thoughts about Semmy - 13/09/2009 08:33:28 AM 1002 Views
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Fact is, the bwb is untrustworthy - 13/09/2009 05:54:28 PM 838 Views
We must either use all the quotes from the BWB or none of them - 13/09/2009 06:07:46 PM 892 Views
Or... - 13/09/2009 08:41:23 PM 835 Views
Re: Or... - 14/09/2009 04:46:52 AM 795 Views
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Re: Not Aginor - 13/09/2009 08:17:28 PM 797 Views
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I agree 101%. *NM* - 14/09/2009 03:49:51 AM 463 Views
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Re: The top 6 Forsaken - similar in the One Power - 12/09/2009 11:48:03 PM 847 Views
the other reason - 13/09/2009 03:24:24 PM 779 Views
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Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? - 13/09/2009 06:05:11 PM 924 Views
I agree with this - 13/09/2009 06:15:24 PM 946 Views
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Excellent point *NM* - 13/09/2009 10:35:08 PM 470 Views
But it did give her an edge, and against two forsaken. *NM* - 13/09/2009 11:12:09 PM 445 Views
Hm? When? *NM* - 14/09/2009 09:04:10 PM 371 Views
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Re: So is graendal similar to lanfear then? - 14/09/2009 04:34:24 PM 764 Views
But Graendal confronted her... twice! *NM* - 13/09/2009 07:48:29 PM 398 Views
Apparently only the third time counts *NM* - 13/09/2009 08:00:37 PM 432 Views
Really? - 13/09/2009 08:36:33 PM 779 Views
No falsely... - 13/09/2009 11:25:40 PM 997 Views
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Probably - 16/09/2009 06:31:27 PM 852 Views
Re: Probably - 16/09/2009 07:19:03 PM 821 Views
Re: Probably - 16/09/2009 08:59:31 PM 771 Views
Re: Probably - 18/09/2009 07:03:09 PM 1106 Views
Ahh the old debate... - 17/09/2009 12:42:36 AM 790 Views
Re: Ahh the old debate... - 17/09/2009 05:26:52 AM 743 Views
I only disagree on one point, I think they are all rather equal in potential, incl. Ishamael - 14/09/2009 04:28:12 PM 797 Views
I do think Ishamel is special - 14/09/2009 07:04:03 PM 884 Views
He's special the same way any individual is special. - 14/09/2009 11:36:42 PM 837 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 08:36:20 AM 809 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 03:48:34 PM 799 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 04:39:39 PM 797 Views
Re: He's special the same way any individual is special. - 15/09/2009 04:53:00 PM 789 Views
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Hmmm - 14/09/2009 07:04:34 PM 770 Views
I think we'll see Graendal vs. Aran'gar. - 14/09/2009 07:31:16 PM 839 Views
Ah yes, that makes sense, and would be great! *NM* - 14/09/2009 07:40:29 PM 639 Views
Yeah. Though I think its no competition. Graendal has got to be better than a walking tree! - 14/09/2009 07:50:09 PM 734 Views
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Yup... - 15/09/2009 06:39:20 PM 664 Views
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Bah! She's an idiot! - 15/09/2009 07:06:06 PM 759 Views
only in love *NM* - 15/09/2009 07:23:29 PM 725 Views
Graendal did not beat me and Moghedien - 15/09/2009 05:59:39 PM 840 Views
Agreed - 15/09/2009 06:36:48 PM 736 Views
Ummm... how do we know? - 15/09/2009 06:40:57 PM 858 Views
Re: Ummm... how do we know? - 15/09/2009 06:56:21 PM 782 Views
Hmmm... - 15/09/2009 07:07:45 PM 941 Views

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