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Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 21/10/2010 02:59:49 PM

Valda was the Lord Captain Commander of the Children! That is to say, he was the law, exactly the opposite of a "renegade."
Show me the slightest scintilla of evidence that this is how the Children function! The very fact that Galad was able to challenge Valda shows that the LCC is, like any other ruler, answerable to their own laws. He is not an absolute dictator, he is a military commander and cannot violate the rules and regulations without completely undoing his own authority over the group.

And to claim that a paramilitary gang answerable to no-one outside its own hierarchy does not rape and pillage beggars belief.
This is not remotely evidence of anything beyond your own prejudices and assumptions (based on your EXTENSIVE experience, I am sure, of paramilitary organizations 8} ). As for being merely "para"military, you are being absurd. Since the only place your user name appears in print is in the BWB, I must assume you have read it, and therefore must know it describes the Children of the Light as the best organized and most professional military organization in the known world. They are the LAST group that should be called merely a paramilitary organization, and compared to them, most national military groups are better called paramilitary. Given the outrage every character shows over the crime to rape (to be expected in a female-oriented world), if there was even the slightest suspicion the Children were prone to that crime a hair more than anyone else, it would have been a major issue, and would not have gone unmentioned. There is no evidence whatsoever that they engage in rape, and the reactions to Valda's crime are evidence against it being common or typical of the Children.

As for murder, we know that the Children, at the very least, assassinate Aes Sedai when they can.
They are at war with the Aes Sedai. There is no other way to kill channelers, who hold too many other advantages.

They hold mass executions of Darkfriends, such as the one demonstrated to Morgase,
Those were Darkfriends! What were they supposed to do with them?! Are you HONESTLY criticizing them for executing real, known Darkfriends?

and even if being a Darkfriend by itself removes people from the protection of law we know that their standards for being a Darkfriend are none too high.
Prove that. You have only the PoV Trap complaints of characters prejudiced against the Children, when in fact, they are NEVER seen to do this in the books.

They stir up mobs and hold people they dislike for torture, which is doubtless followed by execution.
Doubtless by whom? Show me one example in the entire series that is aberrant from the rest of the world! We see that in Cairhien, even nobles can be arraigned and tried for treason simply on the word of one of their peers! How much of a trial did Colavaere get, beyond a couple of people saying "She did bad stuff, I promise, cross my heart"? Andor, long held as the standard of commoner's rights and rule by law, brands non-violent criminals on purely circumstantial evidence, and hangs them after a third strike, and requires no more evidence of being a Darkfriend than the word of a noblewoman. Compare that to their treatment of Perrin, who assaulted and murdered soldiers on no provocation. He himself hangs men on less offense and less proof in later books, but the Children arrest him and take him in for a trial, when even under the Geneva Conventions, they would have been justified in slitting his throat on the spot.

If the Tower didn't eat, would you starve yourself to death too?
And when the HELL have I EVER suggested the Tower is a model of any sort of behavior to follow? This is an ANTI-White Tower post, in case you have forgotten!

The Americans won the Cold War for a reason, Cannoli.
Given the sheer ignorance and lack of comprehension about a very limited book series you display here, I cannot even begin to speculate what warped perspective on history inspires this non sequitur.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
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The Children of the Light and the White Tower - 20/10/2010 08:32:10 PM 2492 Views
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The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. - 20/10/2010 09:05:55 PM 1288 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. - 21/10/2010 12:15:48 AM 1198 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. - 21/10/2010 02:59:49 PM 1189 Views
Hehe. Touché! *NM* - 21/10/2010 03:05:02 PM 619 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. - 24/10/2010 06:53:19 AM 1321 Views
But that explains their actions - 25/10/2010 01:41:50 AM 1057 Views
Don't turn this around on the Aes Sedai - 27/10/2010 10:53:27 AM 1248 Views
Huh? ... what !! ... are you mad? - 21/10/2010 05:05:16 PM 1125 Views
Did you forget the very first PoV Darkfriend in the series? - 23/10/2010 03:27:25 PM 1138 Views
Difference being the whitecloaks who were ordered to do it were not DFs. All the AS evil deeds - 23/10/2010 07:55:23 PM 1120 Views
To echo Darius... - 23/10/2010 08:34:00 PM 1044 Views
Re: To echo Darius... - 25/10/2010 10:03:14 AM 999 Views
Go look up the definition of the word atrocity - 25/10/2010 04:53:55 PM 1012 Views
Maybe you should have done that yourself: "behaviour or an action that is wicked or ruthless" - 27/10/2010 11:11:30 AM 973 Views
the fact that you can't differentiate between the extermination of an entire village - 27/10/2010 08:30:12 PM 1032 Views
READ; I *did* differentiate between them. It doesn't change the fact all are atrocious deeds - 28/10/2010 09:00:56 AM 1094 Views
- 28/10/2010 05:22:18 PM 960 Views
You asked for atrocities and you got them. Now you just don't know what to do with them. - 28/10/2010 06:49:16 PM 1054 Views
dude, you gave us a list of petty crimes and compared it to mass murder - 28/10/2010 06:59:33 PM 1002 Views
Complete the thought... - 28/10/2010 07:11:37 PM 933 Views
Rape, murder, starting wars and doing noting about them, kidnap / severe torture of prisoners... *NM* - 28/10/2010 07:51:33 PM 575 Views
What wars did they start? - 28/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 923 Views
You should be an Aes Sedai; the way you can twist truth would scare Siuan. - 28/10/2010 09:07:24 PM 1028 Views
Wow... I'm sooo Insulted! - 28/10/2010 09:23:41 PM 979 Views
- 28/10/2010 07:07:57 PM 1083 Views
Take your own advice, please - 28/10/2010 07:30:51 PM 1003 Views
Re: Take your own advice, please - 28/10/2010 07:44:59 PM 939 Views
Their own organisation calls it rape. Simple. - 28/10/2010 08:26:49 PM 1054 Views
Re: Take your own advice, please - 28/10/2010 09:18:17 PM 1159 Views
- 21/10/2010 01:47:19 AM 1157 Views
Not so sure about that - 21/10/2010 02:29:02 AM 1082 Views
Re: Not so sure about that - 21/10/2010 03:57:34 AM 1117 Views
the city is closed to WC - 21/10/2010 04:01:45 AM 1122 Views
Re: the city is closed to WC - 21/10/2010 04:55:45 AM 964 Views
But that is irrelevant. Aes Sedai can also go to Amadicia in disguise. *NM* - 21/10/2010 05:35:18 AM 512 Views
But they aren't in disguise - 21/10/2010 08:31:38 AM 1003 Views
They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise. - 21/10/2010 09:08:25 PM 952 Views
Re: They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise. - 22/10/2010 02:10:07 PM 1040 Views
Don't be ridiculous... - 22/10/2010 04:52:55 PM 981 Views
No different - 23/10/2010 02:26:24 PM 1095 Views
Here is to hoping Egwene can get her head out of her ass. - 21/10/2010 10:30:10 AM 1070 Views
Now hang on a minute! - 21/10/2010 07:28:45 AM 1213 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! - 21/10/2010 10:49:34 AM 1108 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! - 21/10/2010 11:28:55 PM 1113 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! - 22/10/2010 01:08:14 AM 1065 Views
IMO, the main difference between Egwene & Galad is... - 21/10/2010 12:36:53 PM 1152 Views
it would be an interesting comparison if they weren't completely different organizations - 21/10/2010 04:09:31 PM 1154 Views
You! - 22/10/2010 02:28:07 PM 1100 Views

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