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Re: To echo Darius... Mik Send a noteboard - 25/10/2010 10:03:14 AM
An Aes Sedai who attempts a hundredth of that will be stilled and executed without a doubt. Which is why the BA has to be so secret.
Wouldn't you say it's odd then that Alanna still isn't stilled -at the very least- for what is compared to as rape for bonding not just any man, but mankinds only hope at defeating the DO? How many Aes Sedai know? All know it's as wrong as abusing a kid, but none actually act. Thety all just see the possibilities.

Both are organizations that can do a lot of harm, but the Aes Sedai have more checks and balances on their power than do the Whitecloaks.
Yeah right. They have the Thirteenth Depository, to hide their dirty laundry. Even without the 13th Depo, they rather hide how they harmed the world, for the sake of the Tower's reputation.

Here's something for you to ponder on those "checks and balances" (cough*laugs*cough):

KoD, Chapter 24:

Tell me if you can. what mistakes did Shein Chunla make that caused the Third War of Garen's Wall? What were the causes of the Great Winter War between Andor and Cairhien? What caused the Weikin Rebellion and how did it end? Most of history seems to be the study of wars, and the important parts of that are how and why they began and how and why ended. A great many wars would never have taken place if people had paid attention to the mistakes others had made. [that's why Aes Sedai checks & balances keeps them SECRET! LOL] Well?"
"Shein didn't make any mistakes," Egwene said slowly, "but you're right. I do have a lot to learn. I don't even know the names of those other wars." Rising, she poured herself a cup of tea from the silver pitcher on the side table. Aside from the ropework silver tray, the tabletop held a stuffed lynx and the skull of a serpent. That was as big as a man's skull!
Bennae frowned, but not for the tea. She hardly seemed to notice that. "What do you mean Shein didn't make any mistakes, child?
Why, she bungled the situation as badly as ever I've heard of."
"Well before the Third War of Garen's Wall," Egwene said, returning to her chair, "Shein was doing exactly as the Hall told her and nothing they didn't." She might be lacking in other areas of history, but Siuan had tutored her thoroughly in the mistakes made by other Amyrlins. And this particular question gave her an opening. Sitting down normally took a great effort.
"What are you talking about?"
"She tried running the Tower with an iron hand, never a compromise on anything, running roughshod over any opposition. The Hall grew tired of it, but they couldn't settle on a replacement, so rather than deposing her, they did worse. They left her in place and forced a penance on her whenever she tried to issue an order of any kind. Any kind at all." She knew she was going on, sounding as if she were the one giving a lecture, but she had to get it all out. Not easing herself on the hard wood of the chair seat was difficult. Welcome the pain. "The Hall ran Shein and the Tower. But they mishandled a great deal themselves, largely because each Ajah had its own goals and there was no hand to shape them into a goal for the Tower. Shein's reign was marked by wars all over the map. Eventually, the sisters themselves got tired of the Hall's bungling. [They got "tired"? War everywhere? Checks and Balances! Petty, self-centered, bickering bitches is what they are] In one of the six mutinies in Tower history. Shein and the Hall were pulled down. I know she supposedly died in the Tower of natural causes, but, in fact, she was smothered in her bed in exile fifty-one years later after the discovery of a plot to put her back on the Amyrlin Seat." [Mutiny, murder, wars...all kept under the hat!]
"Mutinies?" Bennae said incredulously. "Six of them? Exiled and smothered?"
"It's all recorded in the secret histories, in the Thirteenth Depository. Though I suppose I shouldn't have told you that." Egwene took a sip of tea and grimaced. It was all but rancid. No wonder Bennae had not touched hers.
"Secret histories? A thirteenth Depository? If such a thing existed, and I think I would know, why should you not have told me?" [GOOD QUESTION! Because the Aes Sedai system is so good and fair I guess!]


Like you said, the Aes Sedai can easily do a lot of harm because of their influence. And as we see above, it's "rule" led to wars, mutiny and murder. A tower-wide boo boo, covered with secrecy, so they can't even learn from it in the future. The currect Aes Sedai system is more rotten then poor Almen's apples before Rand came along....

I hope Rand does the same thing for the Tower as he did for that orchard; make Egwene see that twisting and bending words so they are interpreted wrongly is practically still lying.
The Tower and it's ways are rotten the core.
It's time Egwene dropped the bad habits (apples) and start acting like responsible adults actually caring for the world.
Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'

Death dances in my footsteps....
This message last edited by Mik on 25/10/2010 at 11:06:49 AM
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The Children of the Light and the White Tower - 20/10/2010 08:32:10 PM 2302 Views
Re: The Children of the Light and the White Tower - 20/10/2010 08:58:12 PM 951 Views
The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. - 20/10/2010 09:05:55 PM 1077 Views
Re: The one known rapist was, by his own admission, committing a crime against their standards. - 21/10/2010 12:15:48 AM 995 Views
Huh? ... what !! ... are you mad? - 21/10/2010 05:05:16 PM 910 Views
Did you forget the very first PoV Darkfriend in the series? - 23/10/2010 03:27:25 PM 895 Views
Difference being the whitecloaks who were ordered to do it were not DFs. All the AS evil deeds - 23/10/2010 07:55:23 PM 931 Views
To echo Darius... - 23/10/2010 08:34:00 PM 861 Views
Re: To echo Darius... - 25/10/2010 10:03:14 AM 794 Views
Go look up the definition of the word atrocity - 25/10/2010 04:53:55 PM 828 Views
Maybe you should have done that yourself: "behaviour or an action that is wicked or ruthless" - 27/10/2010 11:11:30 AM 784 Views
the fact that you can't differentiate between the extermination of an entire village - 27/10/2010 08:30:12 PM 822 Views
READ; I *did* differentiate between them. It doesn't change the fact all are atrocious deeds - 28/10/2010 09:00:56 AM 915 Views
- 28/10/2010 05:22:18 PM 759 Views
You asked for atrocities and you got them. Now you just don't know what to do with them. - 28/10/2010 06:49:16 PM 859 Views
dude, you gave us a list of petty crimes and compared it to mass murder - 28/10/2010 06:59:33 PM 818 Views
Complete the thought... - 28/10/2010 07:11:37 PM 731 Views
Rape, murder, starting wars and doing noting about them, kidnap / severe torture of prisoners... *NM* - 28/10/2010 07:51:33 PM 475 Views
What wars did they start? - 28/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 737 Views
You should be an Aes Sedai; the way you can twist truth would scare Siuan. - 28/10/2010 09:07:24 PM 782 Views
Wow... I'm sooo Insulted! - 28/10/2010 09:23:41 PM 792 Views
- 28/10/2010 07:07:57 PM 863 Views
Take your own advice, please - 28/10/2010 07:30:51 PM 781 Views
Re: Take your own advice, please - 28/10/2010 07:44:59 PM 727 Views
Their own organisation calls it rape. Simple. - 28/10/2010 08:26:49 PM 811 Views
Re: Take your own advice, please - 28/10/2010 09:18:17 PM 923 Views
- 21/10/2010 01:47:19 AM 961 Views
Not so sure about that - 21/10/2010 02:29:02 AM 850 Views
Re: Not so sure about that - 21/10/2010 03:57:34 AM 882 Views
the city is closed to WC - 21/10/2010 04:01:45 AM 934 Views
Re: the city is closed to WC - 21/10/2010 04:55:45 AM 764 Views
But that is irrelevant. Aes Sedai can also go to Amadicia in disguise. *NM* - 21/10/2010 05:35:18 AM 420 Views
But they aren't in disguise - 21/10/2010 08:31:38 AM 795 Views
They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise. - 21/10/2010 09:08:25 PM 730 Views
Re: They don't wear their uniform, their one identifying feature. That is a disguise. - 22/10/2010 02:10:07 PM 831 Views
Don't be ridiculous... - 22/10/2010 04:52:55 PM 791 Views
No different - 23/10/2010 02:26:24 PM 860 Views
Here is to hoping Egwene can get her head out of her ass. - 21/10/2010 10:30:10 AM 866 Views
Now hang on a minute! - 21/10/2010 07:28:45 AM 1011 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! - 21/10/2010 10:49:34 AM 895 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! - 21/10/2010 11:28:55 PM 907 Views
Re: Now hang on a minute! - 22/10/2010 01:08:14 AM 868 Views
IMO, the main difference between Egwene & Galad is... - 21/10/2010 12:36:53 PM 939 Views
it would be an interesting comparison if they weren't completely different organizations - 21/10/2010 04:09:31 PM 967 Views
You! - 22/10/2010 02:28:07 PM 867 Views

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