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I judge you based on your own statements towards me malekithe Send a noteboard - 05/12/2010 10:16:18 AM
Helene argued with your statement that she should not have been able to show them the weave, due to the oath about weapons. You argued this point for a short while.

Then suddenly, you were claiming "uhm, but I said that we didn't have to see Elaida or an Aes Sedai do it."

well, yes, you did, but that has no bearing on the argument being made. It's a red herring. It has nothing to do with whether she or any other Aes Sedai was able to do so. This is a matter of world magic mechanics, where as the point that we didn't need to see them do it is a matter of plot development mechanics. Your point that it was probably just so we saw what happened to Elaida is quite valid and likely. It just has nothing to do with whether she was able to show them how to make a gateway.

So either you merely do not know how to argue, or you do not have the ability to comprehend what you read.



No what I said in essence was that it strained incredulity to see Elaida do it when in my opinion that her Oath should have constrained her. She still believes she is the Amyrlin, she knows that the Seanchan will likely kill Aes Sedai by her teaching them this weave, therefore she should believe the weave is a weapon in her hands.

Therefore I stated something to the effect of 'why did it have to be Elaida to show this weave', when it would have crossed no boundaries for someone like an Accepted to do it, when they have no Oath, no possible even shred of reason that would not allow them to perform it. An Aes Sedai, ESPECIALLY Elaida who still thinks she is Amyrlin should not (in my opinion it felt sketchy, and used solely for the purpose of showing Elaida and disregarded the Oath completely).

Now, go ahead and curse at me all you like, and masquerade your insults by saying things like I have a 'reading disability' because I don't agree with you.

The point is I just disagree with you, it's you that decided to lower yourself and attack me personally.
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Elaida, oh no you didn't! malekithe - 04/12/2010 06:38:22 AM 2292 Views
The weave will not directly result in death Helene - 04/12/2010 06:54:20 AM 1206 Views
Re: The weave will not directly result in death malekithe - 04/12/2010 07:08:50 AM 1094 Views
Wrong for two reasons Voscaia Sedai - 04/12/2010 09:10:03 AM 1251 Views
Only two? Usually he's wrong for eight reasons. *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2010 09:47:37 AM 566 Views
Go jump in a lake malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:32:18 AM 1011 Views
I wanted to be polite and mentioned just the major ones *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2010 10:44:25 AM 519 Views
Thank you, Voscaia Sedai *NM* Evil_Monkey - 04/12/2010 08:51:58 PM 472 Views
Re: Wrong for two reasons malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:39:02 AM 1009 Views
you're forgetting she was collared. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:01:27 AM 886 Views
Re: you're forgetting she was collared. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:08:30 AM 972 Views
uhm, no that's not all you're saying. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:14:47 AM 996 Views
Yeah I am malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:17:48 AM 944 Views
no. dude i gave you a direct quote from your own statement. that is not what you said LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:20:14 AM 1051 Views
Go dude yourself brother. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:27:33 AM 903 Views
wow i just...wow. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:33:41 AM 994 Views
Re: wow i just...wow. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:45:47 AM 994 Views
yes well you genuinely seem to be having a problem comprehending your own statements. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:51:18 AM 844 Views
Well you genuinely seem to be retarded. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:59:19 AM 913 Views
I judge this based off your own reactions to other's statements LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:05:58 AM 1016 Views
I judge you based on your own statements towards me malekithe - 05/12/2010 10:16:18 AM 937 Views
if all you did was disagree with me, we would not be having this discussion. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:25:36 AM 889 Views
This is why I replied the way I did *NM* Deadsy - 05/12/2010 10:51:54 AM 434 Views
go read the boooks more closely darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:34:11 PM 1323 Views
Plain wrong. The weave doesn't kill in itself. Ashaman_Luc - 04/12/2010 02:34:00 PM 1103 Views
Wrong malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:40:40 AM 907 Views
This redqueen - 04/12/2010 12:35:04 PM 927 Views
Seconded "This"^ *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:09:17 PM 449 Views
Thirded "This"^ *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2010 10:47:56 AM 480 Views
Re: Fourthed "This"^ *NM* alanna aes sedai - 05/12/2010 08:08:15 PM 443 Views
yep, he was just trolling I guess *NM* Lo'oris - 05/12/2010 01:58:32 PM 445 Views
the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death Ava - 04/12/2010 02:55:13 PM 933 Views
Re: the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:43:48 AM 1005 Views
just because they didn't want to doesn't mean they weren't able. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:07:08 AM 942 Views
Re: just because they didn't want to doesn't mean they weren't able. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:11:28 AM 968 Views
well that would explain how santa is able to make his rounds in one night! *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:13:42 AM 439 Views
well that would explain how santa is able to make his rounds in one night! *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:13:43 AM 403 Views
Yup, I guess that was what Elaida was thinking *NM* malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:15:21 AM 456 Views
Re: the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death HyogaRott - 06/12/2010 03:44:33 PM 915 Views
It's actually come up in the books themselves darius_sedai - 04/12/2010 03:00:03 PM 1087 Views
Re: Elaida, oh no you didn't! Zeratul - 04/12/2010 03:30:57 PM 989 Views
Elaida could teach them balefire and not break the Oaths. *NM* Gher - 04/12/2010 07:24:55 PM 424 Views
This is ridiculous. You can teach any weave, including Balefire. You just can't always use it. *NM* Marshall - 05/12/2010 06:37:16 AM 407 Views
You can teach a weave so long as YOU believe that the weave won't be a weapon. Elaida knows better *NM* malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:13:57 AM 438 Views
This is false, we've seen battle weaves taught since the start of the series. Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:49:13 PM 876 Views
Right? and every AS seems to know how to make a fireball and call lightning darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:44:45 PM 884 Views
that's where you are wrong darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:43:21 PM 868 Views
Re: Elaida, oh no you didn't! benxtaron - 05/12/2010 08:32:50 AM 1181 Views
There's another way she could have avoided it redqueen - 05/12/2010 11:37:09 AM 890 Views
Re: There's another way she could have avoided it Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:51:06 PM 1254 Views
Re: There's another way she could have avoided it Watcher - 06/12/2010 01:43:45 PM 862 Views
I disagree redqueen - 06/12/2010 02:29:46 PM 955 Views
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