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I judge you based on your own statements towards me malekithe Send a noteboard - 05/12/2010 10:16:18 AM
Helene argued with your statement that she should not have been able to show them the weave, due to the oath about weapons. You argued this point for a short while.

Then suddenly, you were claiming "uhm, but I said that we didn't have to see Elaida or an Aes Sedai do it."

well, yes, you did, but that has no bearing on the argument being made. It's a red herring. It has nothing to do with whether she or any other Aes Sedai was able to do so. This is a matter of world magic mechanics, where as the point that we didn't need to see them do it is a matter of plot development mechanics. Your point that it was probably just so we saw what happened to Elaida is quite valid and likely. It just has nothing to do with whether she was able to show them how to make a gateway.

So either you merely do not know how to argue, or you do not have the ability to comprehend what you read.



No what I said in essence was that it strained incredulity to see Elaida do it when in my opinion that her Oath should have constrained her. She still believes she is the Amyrlin, she knows that the Seanchan will likely kill Aes Sedai by her teaching them this weave, therefore she should believe the weave is a weapon in her hands.

Therefore I stated something to the effect of 'why did it have to be Elaida to show this weave', when it would have crossed no boundaries for someone like an Accepted to do it, when they have no Oath, no possible even shred of reason that would not allow them to perform it. An Aes Sedai, ESPECIALLY Elaida who still thinks she is Amyrlin should not (in my opinion it felt sketchy, and used solely for the purpose of showing Elaida and disregarded the Oath completely).

Now, go ahead and curse at me all you like, and masquerade your insults by saying things like I have a 'reading disability' because I don't agree with you.

The point is I just disagree with you, it's you that decided to lower yourself and attack me personally.
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Elaida, oh no you didn't! malekithe - 04/12/2010 06:38:22 AM 2030 Views
The weave will not directly result in death Helene - 04/12/2010 06:54:20 AM 934 Views
Re: The weave will not directly result in death malekithe - 04/12/2010 07:08:50 AM 853 Views
Wrong for two reasons Voscaia Sedai - 04/12/2010 09:10:03 AM 1008 Views
Only two? Usually he's wrong for eight reasons. *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2010 09:47:37 AM 454 Views
Go jump in a lake malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:32:18 AM 737 Views
I wanted to be polite and mentioned just the major ones *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2010 10:44:25 AM 413 Views
Thank you, Voscaia Sedai *NM* Evil_Monkey - 04/12/2010 08:51:58 PM 358 Views
Re: Wrong for two reasons malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:39:02 AM 757 Views
you're forgetting she was collared. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:01:27 AM 646 Views
Re: you're forgetting she was collared. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:08:30 AM 738 Views
uhm, no that's not all you're saying. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:14:47 AM 743 Views
Yeah I am malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:17:48 AM 675 Views
no. dude i gave you a direct quote from your own statement. that is not what you said LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:20:14 AM 805 Views
Go dude yourself brother. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:27:33 AM 670 Views
wow i just...wow. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:33:41 AM 761 Views
Re: wow i just...wow. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:45:47 AM 738 Views
yes well you genuinely seem to be having a problem comprehending your own statements. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:51:18 AM 616 Views
Well you genuinely seem to be retarded. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:59:19 AM 670 Views
I judge this based off your own reactions to other's statements LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:05:58 AM 778 Views
I judge you based on your own statements towards me malekithe - 05/12/2010 10:16:18 AM 698 Views
if all you did was disagree with me, we would not be having this discussion. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:25:36 AM 615 Views
This is why I replied the way I did *NM* Deadsy - 05/12/2010 10:51:54 AM 322 Views
go read the boooks more closely darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:34:11 PM 1041 Views
Plain wrong. The weave doesn't kill in itself. Ashaman_Luc - 04/12/2010 02:34:00 PM 832 Views
Wrong malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:40:40 AM 664 Views
This redqueen - 04/12/2010 12:35:04 PM 696 Views
Seconded "This"^ *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:09:17 PM 323 Views
Thirded "This"^ *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2010 10:47:56 AM 369 Views
Re: Fourthed "This"^ *NM* alanna aes sedai - 05/12/2010 08:08:15 PM 326 Views
yep, he was just trolling I guess *NM* Lo'oris - 05/12/2010 01:58:32 PM 322 Views
the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death Ava - 04/12/2010 02:55:13 PM 670 Views
Re: the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:43:48 AM 734 Views
just because they didn't want to doesn't mean they weren't able. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:07:08 AM 701 Views
Re: just because they didn't want to doesn't mean they weren't able. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:11:28 AM 721 Views
well that would explain how santa is able to make his rounds in one night! *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:13:42 AM 326 Views
well that would explain how santa is able to make his rounds in one night! *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:13:43 AM 265 Views
Yup, I guess that was what Elaida was thinking *NM* malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:15:21 AM 343 Views
Re: the oath is very literal and does not forbid indirectly causing death HyogaRott - 06/12/2010 03:44:33 PM 664 Views
It's actually come up in the books themselves darius_sedai - 04/12/2010 03:00:03 PM 814 Views
Re: Elaida, oh no you didn't! Zeratul - 04/12/2010 03:30:57 PM 739 Views
Elaida could teach them balefire and not break the Oaths. *NM* Gher - 04/12/2010 07:24:55 PM 313 Views
This is ridiculous. You can teach any weave, including Balefire. You just can't always use it. *NM* Marshall - 05/12/2010 06:37:16 AM 284 Views
You can teach a weave so long as YOU believe that the weave won't be a weapon. Elaida knows better *NM* malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:13:57 AM 332 Views
This is false, we've seen battle weaves taught since the start of the series. Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:49:13 PM 640 Views
Right? and every AS seems to know how to make a fireball and call lightning darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:44:45 PM 633 Views
that's where you are wrong darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 02:43:21 PM 643 Views
Re: Elaida, oh no you didn't! benxtaron - 05/12/2010 08:32:50 AM 841 Views
There's another way she could have avoided it redqueen - 05/12/2010 11:37:09 AM 641 Views
Re: There's another way she could have avoided it Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:51:06 PM 1016 Views
Re: There's another way she could have avoided it Watcher - 06/12/2010 01:43:45 PM 639 Views
I disagree redqueen - 06/12/2010 02:29:46 PM 694 Views
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