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a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text moratcorlm Send a noteboard - 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM
It does not mean that their owner can't decide to have them strapped or maimed or simply killed.

b) it's hardly unique to property, as the plight of the ostensibly free working class in Randland shows. There is evidence in the text of Randland servants being starved, beaten, and raped without any furor. These are brutish pre-Enlightenment societies one and all.

There are plenty of good arguments against the Seanchan, but as they say, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. Lies don't help your case.
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Seanchan Takeover of Randland Mordie01 - 22/01/2011 11:25:36 PM 2402 Views
I would be mostly okay with it if they abolished slavery first Deadsy - 23/01/2011 12:19:48 AM 1323 Views
Hopefully the Dragon's Peace (not the one Avi saw the effects of) those concerns. *NM* Japhy - 23/01/2011 03:21:04 AM 623 Views
You mean utter anarchy and a dangerously stratified society? Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 07:24:48 AM 1093 Views
The situation in Seanchan isn't that unique ranagrande - 23/01/2011 07:49:28 AM 1161 Views
Except with continous rebellion. Chas - 23/01/2011 12:13:17 PM 1151 Views
That's to be expected. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 12:56:07 PM 1085 Views
there's tons of problems there, but 20+ leaders/royals killed? Disaster anywhere... *NM* newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:38:57 AM 570 Views
Funny; Caemlyn's succession crises aren't nearly as bad. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 11:00:45 PM 556 Views
Rand deserves some credit, he did get involved early and held the Lion Throne for Elayne. *NM* Libby - 24/01/2011 08:47:42 AM 578 Views
The anarchy is what happens in the absence of Seanchan power. Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:10:56 PM 1123 Views
Yes. That is a flaw of Seanchan governance. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM 1015 Views
It's not the Empire's fault, and that flaw is not being duplicated in the wetlands Cannoli - 28/01/2011 11:24:00 PM 1309 Views
Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 02:09:05 AM 1011 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 29/01/2011 01:10:36 PM 1123 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 10:02:27 PM 944 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 30/01/2011 03:56:23 AM 1175 Views
It's like you don't even read anything when you post. My posts, the books themselves... Cannoli - 02/02/2011 06:41:10 PM 1143 Views
They treat channelers like DOGS! so, No. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 23/01/2011 07:56:22 AM 560 Views
I treat my dog better *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 23/01/2011 10:28:08 AM 531 Views
Good point. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 24/01/2011 01:47:29 AM 559 Views
Dogs never broke the world or created Shadowspawn, so they have it coming *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:07:32 PM 546 Views
The Pattern certainly has some plan or purpose for the Seanchan. Libby - 23/01/2011 10:59:33 AM 1201 Views
That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lord Haart - 23/01/2011 11:41:35 PM 1021 Views
If we're going to personify things, we should be personifying the Wheel, not the Pattern. Ghavrel - 24/01/2011 12:13:49 AM 1054 Views
I think it's interesting Libby - 24/01/2011 09:23:40 AM 1072 Views
There has been ta'veren since Hawkwing and before the Triple. Lohikaarme - 28/01/2011 11:56:46 AM 1135 Views
Who were they? Libby - 29/01/2011 12:33:58 AM 1001 Views
Re: That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lo'oris - 24/01/2011 12:38:38 PM 964 Views
Um, no newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:36:24 AM 1148 Views
look around you again redhand - 23/01/2011 03:24:01 PM 1137 Views
Re: look around you again Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 03:54:49 PM 1076 Views
Seanchan equality before the law Zeratul - 23/01/2011 04:09:54 PM 1147 Views
Re: Seanchan equality before the law Watcher - 23/01/2011 04:22:28 PM 1126 Views
a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM 1082 Views
Yes. moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:47:30 PM 1096 Views
Mostly, yes. redqueen - 23/01/2011 05:57:17 PM 1044 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 06:10:10 PM 1091 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 06:33:00 PM 1184 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 11:03:36 PM 1032 Views
Not really redqueen - 23/01/2011 07:12:27 PM 1038 Views
I disagree. Bergioyn - 25/01/2011 07:17:18 PM 1066 Views
I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 24/01/2011 08:04:21 PM 1179 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 25/01/2011 10:40:58 AM 1009 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 25/01/2011 05:55:13 PM 1004 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 26/01/2011 12:10:54 AM 1252 Views
"We" don't know of the One Power existing, so obviously it disappears. *NM* Deadsy - 26/01/2011 12:14:19 AM 573 Views
Lack of knowledge doesn't mean the One Power vanishes or is destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/01/2011 04:03:22 PM 997 Views
If OP still existed, you'd still have sparkers even "today". *NM* Myrdhyn - 26/01/2011 06:34:50 PM 553 Views
Not exactly; genetics are more complicated. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2011 09:48:48 PM 1090 Views
No RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2011 05:41:09 PM 1187 Views
Ah, um, no. Ghavrel - 29/01/2011 11:53:16 PM 1097 Views
The thing is orius - 04/02/2011 05:29:15 AM 1031 Views
They didn't break anything Lo'oris - 04/02/2011 02:13:10 PM 1085 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 04/02/2011 10:29:09 PM 1135 Views
Re: Contemplate this then.... redqueen - 06/02/2011 12:44:21 AM 1074 Views
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