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Not really redqueen Send a noteboard - 23/01/2011 07:12:27 PM
As civilisations go, the Seanchan one isn't the worst one to live in, as long as you aren't a channeler with the spark (0.01% of the population)

Yeah, just like Nazi Germany, as long as you aren't a jew, or a dissident.
(yes, yes, Godwin's law)


WWII Germany was trying to become an Empire, but unlike the Seanchan Empire, they took key decisions on a (seriously flawed) idealogical basis. The 'master race' crap meant that (i) they wasted time and resources attacking their own citizens, for ridiculous and arbitrary reasons, and so undermined their own strength; and (ii) they had to conquer and subdue every country they fought, unlike the Seanchan, who absorb the existing power structures and work through them.

The Seanchan empire is a totalitarian dictatorship, there's no glossing over that. But, arguably, so is every nation in Randland apart from Far Madding. In terms of how it treats it citizens, I'd argue Seanchan is better. Even damane and da'covale have a better life than a peasant farmer on the edge of ruin, or a dockworker in Tear strung up for looking the wrong way at a noble.
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Seanchan Takeover of Randland Mordie01 - 22/01/2011 11:25:36 PM 2179 Views
I would be mostly okay with it if they abolished slavery first Deadsy - 23/01/2011 12:19:48 AM 1134 Views
Hopefully the Dragon's Peace (not the one Avi saw the effects of) those concerns. *NM* Japhy - 23/01/2011 03:21:04 AM 527 Views
You mean utter anarchy and a dangerously stratified society? Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 07:24:48 AM 909 Views
The situation in Seanchan isn't that unique ranagrande - 23/01/2011 07:49:28 AM 949 Views
Except with continous rebellion. Chas - 23/01/2011 12:13:17 PM 943 Views
That's to be expected. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 12:56:07 PM 895 Views
there's tons of problems there, but 20+ leaders/royals killed? Disaster anywhere... *NM* newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:38:57 AM 461 Views
Funny; Caemlyn's succession crises aren't nearly as bad. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 11:00:45 PM 453 Views
Rand deserves some credit, he did get involved early and held the Lion Throne for Elayne. *NM* Libby - 24/01/2011 08:47:42 AM 483 Views
The anarchy is what happens in the absence of Seanchan power. Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:10:56 PM 887 Views
Yes. That is a flaw of Seanchan governance. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM 811 Views
It's not the Empire's fault, and that flaw is not being duplicated in the wetlands Cannoli - 28/01/2011 11:24:00 PM 1064 Views
Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 02:09:05 AM 829 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 29/01/2011 01:10:36 PM 911 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 10:02:27 PM 762 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 30/01/2011 03:56:23 AM 966 Views
It's like you don't even read anything when you post. My posts, the books themselves... Cannoli - 02/02/2011 06:41:10 PM 939 Views
They treat channelers like DOGS! so, No. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 23/01/2011 07:56:22 AM 456 Views
I treat my dog better *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 23/01/2011 10:28:08 AM 447 Views
Good point. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 24/01/2011 01:47:29 AM 473 Views
Dogs never broke the world or created Shadowspawn, so they have it coming *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:07:32 PM 432 Views
The Pattern certainly has some plan or purpose for the Seanchan. Libby - 23/01/2011 10:59:33 AM 996 Views
That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lord Haart - 23/01/2011 11:41:35 PM 830 Views
If we're going to personify things, we should be personifying the Wheel, not the Pattern. Ghavrel - 24/01/2011 12:13:49 AM 864 Views
I think it's interesting Libby - 24/01/2011 09:23:40 AM 866 Views
There has been ta'veren since Hawkwing and before the Triple. Lohikaarme - 28/01/2011 11:56:46 AM 861 Views
Who were they? Libby - 29/01/2011 12:33:58 AM 800 Views
Re: That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lo'oris - 24/01/2011 12:38:38 PM 783 Views
Um, no newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:36:24 AM 934 Views
look around you again redhand - 23/01/2011 03:24:01 PM 898 Views
Re: look around you again Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 03:54:49 PM 885 Views
Seanchan equality before the law Zeratul - 23/01/2011 04:09:54 PM 943 Views
Re: Seanchan equality before the law Watcher - 23/01/2011 04:22:28 PM 906 Views
a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM 883 Views
Yes. moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:47:30 PM 877 Views
Mostly, yes. redqueen - 23/01/2011 05:57:17 PM 849 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 06:10:10 PM 876 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 06:33:00 PM 934 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 11:03:36 PM 839 Views
Not really redqueen - 23/01/2011 07:12:27 PM 854 Views
I disagree. Bergioyn - 25/01/2011 07:17:18 PM 848 Views
I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 24/01/2011 08:04:21 PM 967 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 25/01/2011 10:40:58 AM 783 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 25/01/2011 05:55:13 PM 825 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 26/01/2011 12:10:54 AM 1025 Views
"We" don't know of the One Power existing, so obviously it disappears. *NM* Deadsy - 26/01/2011 12:14:19 AM 468 Views
Lack of knowledge doesn't mean the One Power vanishes or is destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/01/2011 04:03:22 PM 782 Views
If OP still existed, you'd still have sparkers even "today". *NM* Myrdhyn - 26/01/2011 06:34:50 PM 451 Views
Not exactly; genetics are more complicated. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2011 09:48:48 PM 857 Views
No RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2011 05:41:09 PM 969 Views
Ah, um, no. Ghavrel - 29/01/2011 11:53:16 PM 867 Views
The thing is orius - 04/02/2011 05:29:15 AM 807 Views
They didn't break anything Lo'oris - 04/02/2011 02:13:10 PM 873 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 04/02/2011 10:29:09 PM 866 Views
Re: Contemplate this then.... redqueen - 06/02/2011 12:44:21 AM 881 Views
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