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A good example Kieran Send a noteboard - 08/02/2011 08:27:44 PM
Rand and the people need to succeed together.

Look at Aridhol. They beat the DO, only to doom themselves to another evil.
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Rand is the Great Serpent entyti - 08/02/2011 04:21:32 AM 1962 Views
Yeah, that seems logical, funny to see rand bite himself in the ass :p *NM* Kieran - 08/02/2011 06:31:44 AM 591 Views
I want to reply and say that's not exactly how I picture it, but I don't want to be dirty. *NM* Deadsy - 08/02/2011 06:50:17 AM 632 Views
there once was a man from nantucket? *NM* nigelgoboom - 08/02/2011 07:18:47 AM 563 Views
Bwah ha ha! Dirty minds think alike! *NM* Evil_Monkey - 08/02/2011 03:41:30 PM 538 Views
That actually seems cosmically plausible - but I really hope this is not the case RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/02/2011 03:27:29 PM 1311 Views
But that has always been the case. I am astounded that it isn't recognized more often... Shannow - 08/02/2011 03:58:24 PM 1175 Views
This. There's a reason one of his archetypes is the Fisher King. *NM* Ghavrel - 08/02/2011 07:00:05 PM 605 Views
The issue is that the Fisher King story is about the Land, not the People RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/02/2011 08:02:24 PM 1100 Views
A good example Kieran - 08/02/2011 08:27:44 PM 1127 Views
None of this is contradicted by what I have posited entyti - 08/02/2011 09:16:48 PM 1054 Views
But the chess analogy is what I'm seeing - the Dragon is necessary in degree not in total. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 02:42:15 PM 1167 Views
Yes, those are the rules in chess... entyti - 10/02/2011 05:34:25 AM 1073 Views
The Fisher King is not a messianic myth. Ghavrel - 08/02/2011 10:07:44 PM 1145 Views
Fisher King title and legends are connected to the Messianic mythos RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 09:47:14 PM 1342 Views
The disciples, not Jesus, were the "fishers of men." EDITED. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 10:08:24 PM 1004 Views
Yeah, you're right about the fish - I was reaching (and typed too fast to think) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 05:30:29 PM 1032 Views
Re: But that has always been the case. I am astounded that it isn't recognized more often... fionwe1987 - 09/02/2011 07:47:14 AM 1096 Views
You two are like a married couple without the benefit of the makeup sex. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:30:10 AM 1218 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 10/02/2011 02:53:17 AM 484 Views
*NM* Sir Tybalt - 10/02/2011 02:52:28 PM 548 Views
Huh? No. You are so off it's not even funny. Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:16:05 AM 1254 Views
Looks like somebody hasn't read The Gathering Storm. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 06:17:55 AM 1142 Views
Re: Looks like somebody hasn't read The Gathering Storm. Velveti - 09/02/2011 06:20:21 AM 1136 Views
Atop Dragonmount, for one... fionwe1987 - 09/02/2011 07:36:56 AM 1151 Views
I'm exhausted, so I may be misremembering. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:27:18 AM 1093 Views
That was Tam. Gher - 09/02/2011 05:09:45 PM 1182 Views
That is a key difference. Japhy - 09/02/2011 06:38:24 PM 1034 Views
Re: Atop Dragonmount, for one... Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:12:02 PM 1140 Views
Not at all! fionwe1987 - 10/02/2011 02:58:39 AM 1025 Views
You sound like Ishamael RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 02:38:52 PM 1135 Views
Re: You sound like Ishamael Velveti - 09/02/2011 03:17:58 PM 1089 Views
I'm definitely not confusing this with the real world roflmao RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 03:54:04 PM 1199 Views
Re: I'm definitely not confusing this with the real world roflmao Velveti - 09/02/2011 06:10:01 PM 1186 Views
Seems to me that you're confused. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/02/2011 08:27:06 PM 939 Views
Seems to me that YOU'RE confused. Velveti - 10/02/2011 02:09:41 AM 1104 Views
You might actually want to read what people wrote. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 03:13:52 PM 997 Views
The amount of elitism on this board would be depressing if it weren't so damned funny. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 09:18:13 PM 1064 Views
What depresses me... entyti - 09/02/2011 11:23:13 PM 1006 Views
I, personally, like it. It makes sense for the Dragon to be an incarnation of the Serpent. Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 11:39:28 PM 1110 Views
I didn't mean to hijack it - other replies did RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/02/2011 02:51:35 PM 1067 Views
It is of little consequence entyti - 10/02/2011 05:36:40 PM 1024 Views
Relax homeboy. It was a joke. *NM* Velveti - 10/02/2011 02:07:55 AM 574 Views
I guess the DO just has "Serpent Envy?" *NM* newyorkersedai - 12/02/2011 01:13:40 PM 535 Views
*NM* entyti - 12/02/2011 02:47:09 PM 519 Views
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