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Various comments Etzel Send a noteboard - 19/09/2009 05:38:21 PM
Nice! Enjoyed the prologue very much.

The "impossible" Storm is obviously created by the DO. So, does the DO actually want that the humans go north, so that the Trolloc army can kill them? Or are the people drawn north due to ta'veren/Wheel-effect?

The Seanchan will yet become more convinced that the Shadow is the enemy (Tylee already thought about an alliance), after the Trolloc attack and the news that Anath was a Forsaken. This will finally lead to the alliance, IMO even before the Seanchan attack the WT. If Semirhage tells Rand that Mesaana is in the WT and that many AS are working for the Shadow (as Mesaana states it at the meeting), I believe Rand will press for a liberation of the WT.

It seems Mesaana is indeed an AS, though I still don't really see why Alviarin thinks then that her true voice and face are familiar.

The idea that Moridin voluntarily created the link between him and Rand becomes even more far-fetched, after we saw yet again that Moridin suffers, when Rand suffers. This is obviously the reason why Moridin wasn't at the Cleansing or doesn't want Rand harmed. Moridin fears that this could backfire at him. Therefore Moridin also didn't send the Trolloc army in KoD. In the end, Rand will certainly use this link to kill Moridin.

I was surprised, though, that Semirhage lost all of the DO's favour and that she actually was too incompetent to capture Rand in KoD. Now the only Forsaken who have still a high standing are Moridin, Graendal and Demandred.

I believe Graendal will soon send assassins to kill people in Rand's party like Bashere, and also Ituralde to create chaos (he is the dying man in a bed from Egwene's Dream).

By the way, it's interesting that we have yet another Graendal PoV ajnd once again she doesn't think about killing Asmo (though she thinks about other Forsaken and her standing). That is addressed at those Graendaldunnits who believe that Slayer MUST of course have thought of Asmo in his single, short PoV , if he was the killer..

As often said in the past, I believe Demandred controlled Masema. This explains Sammael's comment about Demandred's "friends" in the south. Besides that, he likely controls the King of Murandy who gaters an army at the moment. Demandred's statement that he wants to kill Rand, supports the idea that Demandred didn't send Slayer as the patron in WH )IMO it was osan'gar) and that Aran'gar posed as Demandred to send the DF Asha'man to kill Rand. It's also clear that Demandred didn't send that Trolloc army in KoD. It was either done by Graendal or Semirhage.
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TGS Prologue - your thoughts (part 2) *spoilers* - 16/09/2009 04:55:21 AM 3459 Views
Where can i find it at? Can someone give me a link? *NM* - 18/09/2009 02:21:10 AM 328 Views
mobipocket.com - 18/09/2009 02:53:13 AM 874 Views
Thanks, It was interesting especially the last part of the prologue *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:42:28 AM 341 Views
Yep, to be truthful I really didn't see that coming. *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:03:12 AM 330 Views
A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue - 18/09/2009 01:30:24 PM 741 Views
As short as the prologue was - 18/09/2009 04:27:54 PM 754 Views
Re: A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue - 18/09/2009 07:08:43 PM 679 Views
How do you think this prologue compares to the previous ones? - 18/09/2009 01:52:59 PM 721 Views
Did only the audiobook ppl get the 2:30 of Harriet at the end? - 18/09/2009 03:07:27 PM 812 Views
nope and now I hate you *NM* - 18/09/2009 04:59:48 PM 431 Views
The interview - 18/09/2009 09:40:23 PM 880 Views
The prologue gives us strong evidence that Graendal is weaker than Demi or Semi - 18/09/2009 03:55:58 PM 893 Views
Well, Lanfear... - 20/09/2009 11:33:22 PM 823 Views
Is it me or do the Forsaken seem more viscious? - 18/09/2009 04:17:22 PM 835 Views
yep, leaner and meaner...except for mesaana-she's still twitchy after shadar haran *NM* - 18/09/2009 05:09:29 PM 428 Views
You blame her? *NM* - 18/09/2009 08:05:46 PM 382 Views
Not at all, I'd be more than "twitchy" if that happened to me - 19/09/2009 12:00:57 AM 710 Views
I get the feeling they want to jump ship - 19/09/2009 02:13:51 PM 822 Views
Trollocs! - 18/09/2009 05:35:12 PM 870 Views
Why not a gray man then? - 18/09/2009 07:52:55 PM 849 Views
I'm going to guess it was Demandred - 18/09/2009 08:12:19 PM 850 Views
What Cache is in Ebou Dar? - 19/09/2009 12:05:05 AM 789 Views
Because they wanted to destroy as much of the force as possible - 19/09/2009 12:07:57 AM 701 Views
But there's no plausible deniability - 19/09/2009 12:50:42 AM 831 Views
But even several grey men or slayer aren't going to get the deed done - 19/09/2009 02:28:36 AM 774 Views
Why? - 19/09/2009 03:25:34 AM 698 Views
simple answer:scouts - 19/09/2009 04:47:04 AM 743 Views
What day is it? Are the Suldam & Damane in the area? - 19/09/2009 05:32:54 PM 717 Views
Who is Graendal going to wack? - 18/09/2009 06:00:12 PM 886 Views
I think it could be Tam. *NM* - 18/09/2009 06:05:12 PM 410 Views
Great idea. - 18/09/2009 07:12:40 PM 723 Views
No one. - 23/09/2009 02:05:06 AM 670 Views
A possibility, but... - 23/09/2009 11:53:07 AM 760 Views
Well, yeah... - 23/09/2009 04:02:47 PM 684 Views
Isn't it obvious...Semirhage sent the Trollocs - 18/09/2009 06:38:15 PM 844 Views
Fades are smart enough though - 18/09/2009 07:54:02 PM 684 Views
Mesaana's statement gives us a big clue about Demandred's and Moridin's whereabouts - 18/09/2009 09:11:49 PM 998 Views
Or - 18/09/2009 10:38:52 PM 864 Views
My first thought was - 19/09/2009 02:20:39 AM 826 Views
My favorite quote: "Who will win? The child or the fool?" - Graendal - 18/09/2009 09:48:55 PM 833 Views
*NM* - 19/09/2009 04:20:29 AM 471 Views
but she didn't say 'the fool or the fool' - 19/09/2009 02:07:20 PM 787 Views
Yes, because Cannoli has long valued the opinions of the Forsaken... - 20/09/2009 06:10:58 AM 800 Views
Lol *NM* - 20/09/2009 08:26:53 AM 780 Views
Forsaken Chapter - 18/09/2009 10:30:10 PM 817 Views
I agree that Graendal will die in this book.... her and A'rangar *NM* - 19/09/2009 08:14:07 AM 389 Views
Re: Forsaken Chapter - 19/09/2009 09:53:31 AM 895 Views
Wrong... - 19/09/2009 01:41:25 PM 875 Views
I think we'll have to agree to disagree. - 19/09/2009 09:22:38 PM 954 Views
Huh - 19/09/2009 01:46:21 PM 953 Views
Re: Huh - 19/09/2009 02:21:43 PM 903 Views
Re: Huh - 19/09/2009 04:32:50 PM 889 Views
Fair enough... - 19/09/2009 05:08:33 PM 955 Views
Re: Forsaken Chapter - 19/09/2009 05:40:14 PM 865 Views
No, see my response to Agent Orange above. *NM* - 19/09/2009 06:07:14 PM 356 Views
Remove your blinders man... - 19/09/2009 07:16:03 PM 870 Views
After third reread - 18/09/2009 10:58:12 PM 785 Views
Ituralde's plan - 19/09/2009 02:04:58 PM 775 Views
Huh....hadn't thought about that - 19/09/2009 03:07:06 PM 849 Views
This makes perfect sense - 22/09/2009 07:35:49 PM 705 Views
Various comments - 19/09/2009 05:38:21 PM 816 Views
The Dying Man - 19/09/2009 06:48:09 PM 866 Views
Yeah, I thought it was Dobraine as well - 19/09/2009 08:30:13 PM 769 Views
Dobraine seems unlikely... - 20/09/2009 11:30:45 AM 652 Views
Symbolism - 20/09/2009 04:10:53 PM 640 Views
After a reread I think I know who sent the Trollocs - 19/09/2009 08:28:08 PM 774 Views
That is a really stupid idea - 20/09/2009 01:20:09 AM 837 Views
Yeah - 20/09/2009 08:24:18 AM 749 Views
Another reason why Moridin is not Taim - 19/09/2009 08:41:03 PM 803 Views
This isn't evidence. - 19/09/2009 08:51:54 PM 819 Views
It isn't evidence, but it is another perspective to add to the table - 19/09/2009 09:11:15 PM 692 Views
Personally, I disagree. - 20/09/2009 03:22:24 AM 765 Views
Do you think Moridin is struggling like Rand is? - 19/09/2009 10:24:45 PM 676 Views
Re: Do you think Moridin is struggling like Rand is? - 19/09/2009 11:29:36 PM 707 Views
Why is Moridin and not Demandred marshalling the Dark Forces in the Blight? - 19/09/2009 10:35:06 PM 720 Views
I think there are many issues here - 19/09/2009 10:51:13 PM 866 Views
The Malign Influence of the Forsaken - 19/09/2009 11:08:00 PM 727 Views
I have doubts about that degree of conversion - 19/09/2009 11:17:44 PM 725 Views
Its a stretch, but... - 19/09/2009 11:34:28 PM 634 Views
I thought about that - 20/09/2009 08:26:02 AM 661 Views
Levee en Masse - 19/09/2009 10:51:54 PM 746 Views
I think Demendred might take over though - 20/09/2009 05:10:08 PM 670 Views
Did Demandred make the connection between Moridin's phantom hand-pain and Semirhage's firebolt? - 20/09/2009 12:11:32 PM 831 Views
I don't think that Demandred will be a key player at the end with Rand - 20/09/2009 01:00:58 PM 863 Views
Some sweeping statements there... - 20/09/2009 01:21:46 PM 772 Views
Not at all - 20/09/2009 03:34:59 PM 828 Views
A lot of twisting my words there, and direct contradictions of your own points... - 20/09/2009 04:19:57 PM 829 Views
Not really - 20/09/2009 05:12:42 PM 884 Views
I couldn't have summarized it better myself... - 20/09/2009 05:25:56 PM 700 Views
But... - 20/09/2009 06:01:33 PM 794 Views
Possible... - 20/09/2009 06:08:21 PM 691 Views
So that's your argument now? - 20/09/2009 07:35:52 PM 670 Views
I think you took that the wrong way... - 20/09/2009 08:53:28 PM 718 Views
Its simply, really. - 20/09/2009 09:05:42 PM 750 Views
Hmmm... - 20/09/2009 11:10:04 PM 742 Views
Fair enough... - 20/09/2009 11:12:53 PM 613 Views
Sure. *NM* - 20/09/2009 11:25:50 PM 330 Views
Wow, then I think you're in for a surprise - 20/09/2009 08:38:37 PM 758 Views
Well - 20/09/2009 08:56:43 PM 755 Views
Re: Well - 20/09/2009 09:40:51 PM 871 Views
Re: Wow, then I think you're in for a surprise - 20/09/2009 09:07:48 PM 769 Views
Just a general comment... - 20/09/2009 09:13:51 PM 867 Views
Re: Just a general comment... - 20/09/2009 09:59:51 PM 1660 Views
Re: Just a general comment... - 20/09/2009 10:19:14 PM 734 Views
Re: Just a general comment... - 21/09/2009 04:58:38 AM 642 Views
I reject the cult of the "cool" villain. - 20/09/2009 11:24:40 PM 723 Views
I don't really agree - 21/09/2009 05:02:10 AM 732 Views
But these aren't criminals... - 21/09/2009 05:47:40 AM 614 Views
No, just the most heinous criminals imaginable - 21/09/2009 12:43:19 PM 820 Views
Re: No, just the most heinous criminals imaginable - 22/09/2009 10:49:58 PM 734 Views
Doubt it... - 20/09/2009 02:10:37 PM 785 Views
I tend to agree with you, this time. - 20/09/2009 05:05:35 PM 692 Views

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