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fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 14/12/2011 06:56:40 PM
I really don't see why that single quote, way early in the series, and by no means even remotely accurate, should give any definition to a possible strength list.

The only way the candle to bonfire comparison makes sense is if Egwene is strength 1 or 2 to Nynaeve's 95, which is so out of the realm of possibility as to be ludicrous.

The facts we have point to Nynaeve not being able to shield Elayne even when Elayne is drink-addled via her bond. We have Moghedien's statement that Elayne was definitely not a pushover in strength. We have RJ's statement that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha were a step below the Foresaken. We have Egwene laying traps in her apartment, ready to duke it out with the OP with Mesaana, with no mention of even an angreal.
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Underestimating Forsaken strength Nessarra - 11/12/2011 05:57:22 AM 2118 Views
Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Shannow - 11/12/2011 07:45:29 AM 1013 Views
Re: Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Nessarra - 11/12/2011 10:25:03 PM 1025 Views
Yes, you are probably correct Sidious - 12/12/2011 06:26:07 AM 1175 Views
Re: and some of the information given to us is flawed Watcher - 12/12/2011 07:38:59 PM 958 Views
The real question is - What percentage of her full strength did Nynaeve achieve by Book 4? Shannow - 12/12/2011 08:31:30 PM 991 Views
I find that unlikely Sidious - 12/12/2011 09:28:07 PM 945 Views
Easy question for you: Based on the evidence, what percentage of her strength was Nynaeve at in tSR? Shannow - 13/12/2011 07:09:56 AM 1002 Views
Well.... Sidious - 13/12/2011 01:12:48 PM 1007 Views
Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 01:36:45 PM 1007 Views
Re: Well there we have it Sidious - 13/12/2011 02:06:14 PM 1035 Views
Re: Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 02:12:10 PM 983 Views
Alivia may not even be stronger than Nynaeve... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:14:06 AM 1052 Views
That wouldn't surprise me actually *NM* Sidious - 14/12/2011 07:46:47 AM 523 Views
Where would you place Egwene though? fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 09:13:46 AM 939 Views
Re: Where would you place Egwene though? Sidious - 14/12/2011 12:53:49 PM 951 Views
Bonfire next to a candle indeed. Hehehe... Shannow - 14/12/2011 05:50:34 PM 1112 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 06:56:40 PM 887 Views
The same "step" you refer to seperates Egwene from normal Aes Sedai according to RJ... Shannow - 14/12/2011 07:14:55 PM 949 Views
Yes! And...? fionwe1987 - 15/12/2011 02:53:37 AM 942 Views
Yes I would agree with that Sidious - 14/12/2011 08:24:35 PM 1096 Views
Alivia with an angreal > > > Cyndane TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 08:50:41 PM 876 Views
No Sidious - 14/12/2011 09:10:34 PM 976 Views
That makes no sense. TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 09:13:48 PM 1027 Views
Correct. Shannow - 14/12/2011 09:43:53 PM 988 Views
Re: Correct. Sidious - 15/12/2011 05:54:37 AM 955 Views
So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Shannow - 14/12/2011 10:01:45 PM 1406 Views
Re: So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Sidious - 15/12/2011 06:16:01 AM 913 Views
There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Shannow - 15/12/2011 07:03:01 AM 996 Views
Re: There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Sidious - 17/12/2011 10:25:47 AM 1023 Views
Because a difference of a few % is negligible, and not even worth mentioning... Shannow - 17/12/2011 10:54:49 AM 915 Views
How could you possibly use Gateways... fionwe1987 - 17/12/2011 12:40:03 PM 886 Views
Repyling at bottom of thread for space reasons... *NM* Shannow - 17/12/2011 02:57:43 PM 493 Views
Only slight diffence I have is regarding general AS strength darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 04:45:49 PM 968 Views
I think it was just Aes Sedai hyperbole RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2011 09:51:00 PM 805 Views
And entirely based off your shared assumption. Fanatic-Templar - 14/12/2011 05:15:51 AM 1030 Views
Actually that's a lot of logical assumption. *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/12/2011 01:28:00 PM 465 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:06:15 AM 798 Views
And darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 05:07:13 PM 912 Views
Yes Cannoli - 13/12/2011 04:16:40 PM 1070 Views
Re: Yes RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 04:47:17 PM 1012 Views
Nah. Beyond the realm of possibility. Sorry, Shannow - 13/12/2011 05:12:40 PM 1046 Views
There are a number of comments from Q&As that shows that this is possible and more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 08:23:49 PM 1016 Views
None of which I disagree with, but a far cry from women being weaker just due to believing it... Shannow - 13/12/2011 08:39:40 PM 949 Views
But that is my point: it wouldn't be merely force of will. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 09:40:17 PM 909 Views
What Rand is doing... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:43:08 AM 1035 Views
That would make sense given Min's vision RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2011 04:37:56 PM 854 Views
Wait.. I DIDN'T write that! fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:02:04 AM 910 Views
Reply to your question of - "Why use Logain gateway comparison as evidence:" Shannow - 17/12/2011 03:08:19 PM 1057 Views
You're basically saying "correlation equals causation"... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2011 06:18:47 AM 994 Views
On gateways Sidious - 18/12/2011 07:17:09 AM 1032 Views
Might assume that Elayne is stronger in the Power than Aviendha. echooff - 19/12/2011 02:40:46 PM 1213 Views
I suspect he knows that... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2011 05:53:00 PM 910 Views
Nope...some maths problems in your post. Shannow - 19/12/2011 07:41:29 PM 945 Views
But 64 square feet is not Elayne's maximum... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2011 02:46:50 AM 909 Views
But Shielding is also relative. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/12/2011 09:35:11 PM 2172 Views
Re: Underestimating Forsaken strength Tedtheman - 22/12/2011 05:24:53 PM 962 Views
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