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And darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/12/2011 05:07:13 PM

It is obvious that if Nynaeve is not even at her full strength in Winter's Heart yet, then she must have been very far removed from her full strength when she matched Moghedien back in Shadow Rising.

That is not true at all. Women grow in strength steadily, and Nynaeve and Elayne haven't been forced to the extent Egwene has. Which means, even with a few jumps, Nynaeve's strength need not have risen all that much in the few months between tSR and WH. It just seems like a long time because the books came out less than once a year, but the real time difference between these two books isn't all that great.



There was significantly more time between Nynaeve first being in the Tower and her facing Moghedien than there was between that fight and the events of Winters Heart. The whole series has taken place in roughly a two year span, TSR was more than half way through the timeline even though it's an early book. Nynaeve could have conceivably been 90% when she faced Moghedien and 95% by WH. Same with Rand facing Asmodean... All of the main characters who are channelers grew in strength rapidly at the beginning and have slowed down since.
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Underestimating Forsaken strength Nessarra - 11/12/2011 05:57:22 AM 2082 Views
Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Shannow - 11/12/2011 07:45:29 AM 966 Views
Re: Ah, my favourite topic makes a return... Nessarra - 11/12/2011 10:25:03 PM 979 Views
Yes, you are probably correct Sidious - 12/12/2011 06:26:07 AM 1129 Views
Re: and some of the information given to us is flawed Watcher - 12/12/2011 07:38:59 PM 918 Views
The real question is - What percentage of her full strength did Nynaeve achieve by Book 4? Shannow - 12/12/2011 08:31:30 PM 946 Views
I find that unlikely Sidious - 12/12/2011 09:28:07 PM 903 Views
Easy question for you: Based on the evidence, what percentage of her strength was Nynaeve at in tSR? Shannow - 13/12/2011 07:09:56 AM 962 Views
Well.... Sidious - 13/12/2011 01:12:48 PM 958 Views
Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 01:36:45 PM 964 Views
Re: Well there we have it Sidious - 13/12/2011 02:06:14 PM 986 Views
Re: Well there we have it Shannow - 13/12/2011 02:12:10 PM 942 Views
Alivia may not even be stronger than Nynaeve... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:14:06 AM 1005 Views
That wouldn't surprise me actually *NM* Sidious - 14/12/2011 07:46:47 AM 504 Views
Where would you place Egwene though? fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 09:13:46 AM 903 Views
Re: Where would you place Egwene though? Sidious - 14/12/2011 12:53:49 PM 901 Views
Bonfire next to a candle indeed. Hehehe... Shannow - 14/12/2011 05:50:34 PM 1068 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 06:56:40 PM 842 Views
The same "step" you refer to seperates Egwene from normal Aes Sedai according to RJ... Shannow - 14/12/2011 07:14:55 PM 903 Views
Yes! And...? fionwe1987 - 15/12/2011 02:53:37 AM 910 Views
Yes I would agree with that Sidious - 14/12/2011 08:24:35 PM 1050 Views
Alivia with an angreal > > > Cyndane TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 08:50:41 PM 832 Views
No Sidious - 14/12/2011 09:10:34 PM 931 Views
That makes no sense. TyrReborn - 14/12/2011 09:13:48 PM 984 Views
Correct. Shannow - 14/12/2011 09:43:53 PM 945 Views
Re: Correct. Sidious - 15/12/2011 05:54:37 AM 921 Views
So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Shannow - 14/12/2011 10:01:45 PM 1366 Views
Re: So many instances of logical laziness in that post... Sidious - 15/12/2011 06:16:01 AM 867 Views
There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Shannow - 15/12/2011 07:03:01 AM 945 Views
Re: There's always room for error, and in general I agree with some of your placements... Sidious - 17/12/2011 10:25:47 AM 980 Views
Because a difference of a few % is negligible, and not even worth mentioning... Shannow - 17/12/2011 10:54:49 AM 868 Views
How could you possibly use Gateways... fionwe1987 - 17/12/2011 12:40:03 PM 858 Views
Repyling at bottom of thread for space reasons... *NM* Shannow - 17/12/2011 02:57:43 PM 476 Views
Only slight diffence I have is regarding general AS strength darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 04:45:49 PM 930 Views
I think it was just Aes Sedai hyperbole RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2011 09:51:00 PM 764 Views
And entirely based off your shared assumption. Fanatic-Templar - 14/12/2011 05:15:51 AM 990 Views
Actually that's a lot of logical assumption. *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/12/2011 01:28:00 PM 450 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:06:15 AM 763 Views
And darius_sedai - 30/12/2011 05:07:13 PM 873 Views
Yes Cannoli - 13/12/2011 04:16:40 PM 1021 Views
Re: Yes RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 04:47:17 PM 957 Views
Nah. Beyond the realm of possibility. Sorry, Shannow - 13/12/2011 05:12:40 PM 1011 Views
There are a number of comments from Q&As that shows that this is possible and more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 08:23:49 PM 976 Views
None of which I disagree with, but a far cry from women being weaker just due to believing it... Shannow - 13/12/2011 08:39:40 PM 899 Views
But that is my point: it wouldn't be merely force of will. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/12/2011 09:40:17 PM 869 Views
What Rand is doing... fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:43:08 AM 994 Views
That would make sense given Min's vision RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2011 04:37:56 PM 807 Views
Wait.. I DIDN'T write that! fionwe1987 - 14/12/2011 03:02:04 AM 870 Views
Reply to your question of - "Why use Logain gateway comparison as evidence:" Shannow - 17/12/2011 03:08:19 PM 1018 Views
You're basically saying "correlation equals causation"... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2011 06:18:47 AM 955 Views
On gateways Sidious - 18/12/2011 07:17:09 AM 982 Views
Might assume that Elayne is stronger in the Power than Aviendha. echooff - 19/12/2011 02:40:46 PM 1166 Views
I suspect he knows that... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2011 05:53:00 PM 869 Views
Nope...some maths problems in your post. Shannow - 19/12/2011 07:41:29 PM 903 Views
But 64 square feet is not Elayne's maximum... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2011 02:46:50 AM 864 Views
But Shielding is also relative. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/12/2011 09:35:11 PM 2119 Views
Re: Underestimating Forsaken strength Tedtheman - 22/12/2011 05:24:53 PM 921 Views
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