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Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA Send a noteboard - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM
It's one of the few "mystical" things left unexplained. Nothing we've seen other channelers do even comes close to that.

Think about it- an impenetrable barrier, so strong that apparently even the Forsaken couldn't touch it, that was keyed to the reincarnated soul of someone who had been long dead and would not reincarnate for thousands of years.


I also find it weird that it's flawed- obviously they knew how, in the AoL, to make non-flawed sa'angreal. The best argument I could think of would be making it flawed like that was necessary, because it would force Rand to act in certain ways he might otherwise not, but it's still weird. Plus, WoT doesn't really have that kind of prophecy manipulation that you see in other books, like Sword of Truth, for example.

The flaw was either deliberate or it was unwittingly done but designed by the 'Pattern'. Considering it magnifies the taint alone, it is possible that no one knew of the flaw until the Breaking started.


That's kind of stating the obvious don't you think? How they could possibly know it magnified the effects of the Taint before saidin got tainted?

As for the magnification you're making a series of assumptions. Cadsuane doesn't even know what the True Power is. When she said it magnified the taint, she meant the effects of the taint on a channeller's mind, no more. Thenin an in an answer to a question about that angreal Moridin said he could use, Jordan said that angreal/san agreal made for the OP wouldn't work with the TP (so it was to use it to channel saidin Moridin could have a use for it). The flaw isn't mysterious let alone deliberate, Jordan explained quite well it's shabby manufacturing caused by the war conditions.

Finally, about Rand using the TP again, it sounds absurd that he would (remember the state of mind Rand had to be in to be able to embrace it.... It's the opposite of how he must be to face the DO...haven't you noticed how Rand's power and even its nature is magnified after he embraced the complete opposite of the state he was in when he touched the TP? ) but even more that Shai'tan would let him draw it again anyway, especially so that Rand could fight him. This is about as well reasonned as Lanfear's stupid belief that she could destroy the Creator with the OP. Whatever BS said obliquely not to confirm Shai'tan let Rand access the TP, Jordan flat out said access to the TP depends strictly on the DO letting you.
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What's so special about Callandor? - 06/03/2012 07:31:40 PM 2434 Views
Honestly, I'm more curious about the "Dragon-only" barrier that surrounded it - 06/03/2012 09:16:15 PM 1391 Views
I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 06/03/2012 09:56:02 PM 1445 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM 1487 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 10:31:39 AM 1339 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 10:55:56 PM 1401 Views
RJ addressed this ... I had a similar thought several years back and this quote was floated my way - 07/03/2012 04:18:01 AM 1374 Views
Hmm.... - 07/03/2012 01:50:07 PM 1303 Views
Very similar to what you are getting at as I recall - 07/03/2012 02:00:56 PM 1177 Views
Using the True Power to win Tarmon Gai'don goes against every moral in the series. - 07/03/2012 07:00:02 AM 1233 Views
actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 10:36:03 AM 1175 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 06:02:48 PM 1222 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 06:18:16 PM 1194 Views
If anything the Dark One WANTS Lews Therin to use the TP *NM* - 07/03/2012 09:43:20 PM 736 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 11:38:56 PM 1381 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 10/03/2012 11:52:23 AM 1380 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 10/03/2012 06:40:00 PM 1195 Views
Have to agree with you on this - 12/03/2012 01:17:06 AM 1191 Views
Re: Have to agree with you on this - 12/03/2012 02:36:13 PM 1180 Views
Fain has become so much more than human. We have no real sense of the limits of his power - 18/03/2012 11:21:54 PM 1078 Views
Shai'tan is the opposite half of the Creator. - 19/03/2012 01:44:31 AM 1044 Views
I actually don't see it that way - 19/03/2012 03:37:26 AM 1223 Views
depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 10:41:28 AM 1262 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 01:07:21 PM 1020 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 08:12:17 PM 1158 Views
Odds are you are correct - 19/03/2012 11:45:03 PM 1003 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 20/03/2012 12:51:48 PM 1040 Views
The DO did not not destroy Mashadar alone - 19/03/2012 11:42:21 PM 1036 Views
That's not correct. - 20/03/2012 01:55:05 AM 1040 Views
Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 01:11:17 PM 1329 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 04:27:33 PM 970 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 04:57:08 PM 1320 Views
You explantion is - 20/03/2012 06:17:52 PM 1072 Views
Agreed *NM* - 19/03/2012 11:40:40 PM 567 Views
RJ Quote: - 19/03/2012 06:52:12 PM 1007 Views
Exactly - 19/03/2012 08:54:22 PM 1363 Views
Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 19/03/2012 11:48:20 PM 1007 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 01:06:20 PM 1052 Views
My point with imagination is simply that destruction only does 1 thing - 20/03/2012 01:14:55 PM 1198 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 04:35:17 PM 1044 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 04:59:13 PM 996 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 08:57:35 PM 1145 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 21/03/2012 01:09:13 PM 1083 Views
Yep . - 21/03/2012 04:51:15 PM 1002 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 14/03/2012 12:15:36 PM 1146 Views
except the TP is not just a tool. - 14/03/2012 01:41:17 PM 1241 Views
No, the Choedan Kal was a tool. - 14/03/2012 05:20:53 PM 967 Views
Sounds like the One Ring - 04/05/2012 03:55:01 PM 1162 Views
I totally agree with you on both issues Ben - 07/03/2012 11:44:42 PM 1311 Views
No, I don't agree - 10/03/2012 12:11:37 PM 1243 Views
That makes no sense... - 10/03/2012 09:21:19 PM 1071 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 11/03/2012 12:25:53 AM 1120 Views
Name an existing well that has that much power, though. - 11/03/2012 01:11:40 AM 1054 Views
He makes a good point though. - 11/03/2012 05:49:59 AM 1075 Views
Yes, but... - 11/03/2012 06:17:25 AM 1045 Views
Re: Yes, but... - 11/03/2012 06:47:43 PM 1075 Views
I found a couple of quote - 12/03/2012 12:00:36 AM 1235 Views
Yeah, I looked through Terez' quote database. - 12/03/2012 12:46:38 AM 1051 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 11/03/2012 08:54:11 AM 1189 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 12/03/2012 02:15:19 PM 1265 Views
Re: No, I don't agree - 12/03/2012 01:49:10 PM 1255 Views
How the Three can become One using the True Power...mindtraps of Moggy and Cyndane... - 12/03/2012 06:04:22 PM 1142 Views
Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims - 13/03/2012 06:43:45 AM 1333 Views
Re: Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims - 13/03/2012 05:19:21 PM 1055 Views
That's what I meant - 18/03/2012 11:13:19 PM 1136 Views

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