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Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA Send a noteboard - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM
It's one of the few "mystical" things left unexplained. Nothing we've seen other channelers do even comes close to that.

Think about it- an impenetrable barrier, so strong that apparently even the Forsaken couldn't touch it, that was keyed to the reincarnated soul of someone who had been long dead and would not reincarnate for thousands of years.


I also find it weird that it's flawed- obviously they knew how, in the AoL, to make non-flawed sa'angreal. The best argument I could think of would be making it flawed like that was necessary, because it would force Rand to act in certain ways he might otherwise not, but it's still weird. Plus, WoT doesn't really have that kind of prophecy manipulation that you see in other books, like Sword of Truth, for example.

The flaw was either deliberate or it was unwittingly done but designed by the 'Pattern'. Considering it magnifies the taint alone, it is possible that no one knew of the flaw until the Breaking started.


That's kind of stating the obvious don't you think? How they could possibly know it magnified the effects of the Taint before saidin got tainted?

As for the magnification you're making a series of assumptions. Cadsuane doesn't even know what the True Power is. When she said it magnified the taint, she meant the effects of the taint on a channeller's mind, no more. Thenin an in an answer to a question about that angreal Moridin said he could use, Jordan said that angreal/san agreal made for the OP wouldn't work with the TP (so it was to use it to channel saidin Moridin could have a use for it). The flaw isn't mysterious let alone deliberate, Jordan explained quite well it's shabby manufacturing caused by the war conditions.

Finally, about Rand using the TP again, it sounds absurd that he would (remember the state of mind Rand had to be in to be able to embrace it.... It's the opposite of how he must be to face the DO...haven't you noticed how Rand's power and even its nature is magnified after he embraced the complete opposite of the state he was in when he touched the TP? ) but even more that Shai'tan would let him draw it again anyway, especially so that Rand could fight him. This is about as well reasonned as Lanfear's stupid belief that she could destroy the Creator with the OP. Whatever BS said obliquely not to confirm Shai'tan let Rand access the TP, Jordan flat out said access to the TP depends strictly on the DO letting you.
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What's so special about Callandor? - 06/03/2012 07:31:40 PM 2004 Views
Honestly, I'm more curious about the "Dragon-only" barrier that surrounded it - 06/03/2012 09:16:15 PM 943 Views
I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 06/03/2012 09:56:02 PM 1003 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM 1080 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 10:31:39 AM 906 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 10:55:56 PM 939 Views
RJ addressed this ... I had a similar thought several years back and this quote was floated my way - 07/03/2012 04:18:01 AM 947 Views
Hmm.... - 07/03/2012 01:50:07 PM 874 Views
Very similar to what you are getting at as I recall - 07/03/2012 02:00:56 PM 758 Views
Using the True Power to win Tarmon Gai'don goes against every moral in the series. - 07/03/2012 07:00:02 AM 817 Views
actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 10:36:03 AM 718 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 06:02:48 PM 778 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 06:18:16 PM 740 Views
If anything the Dark One WANTS Lews Therin to use the TP *NM* - 07/03/2012 09:43:20 PM 505 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 11:38:56 PM 909 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 10/03/2012 11:52:23 AM 918 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 10/03/2012 06:40:00 PM 772 Views
Have to agree with you on this - 12/03/2012 01:17:06 AM 793 Views
Re: Have to agree with you on this - 12/03/2012 02:36:13 PM 754 Views
Fain has become so much more than human. We have no real sense of the limits of his power - 18/03/2012 11:21:54 PM 641 Views
Shai'tan is the opposite half of the Creator. - 19/03/2012 01:44:31 AM 638 Views
I actually don't see it that way - 19/03/2012 03:37:26 AM 786 Views
depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 10:41:28 AM 834 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 01:07:21 PM 611 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 08:12:17 PM 709 Views
Odds are you are correct - 19/03/2012 11:45:03 PM 584 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 20/03/2012 12:51:48 PM 547 Views
The DO did not not destroy Mashadar alone - 19/03/2012 11:42:21 PM 613 Views
That's not correct. - 20/03/2012 01:55:05 AM 610 Views
Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 01:11:17 PM 862 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 04:27:33 PM 538 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 04:57:08 PM 875 Views
You explantion is - 20/03/2012 06:17:52 PM 655 Views
Agreed *NM* - 19/03/2012 11:40:40 PM 326 Views
RJ Quote: - 19/03/2012 06:52:12 PM 588 Views
Exactly - 19/03/2012 08:54:22 PM 899 Views
Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 19/03/2012 11:48:20 PM 600 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 01:06:20 PM 603 Views
My point with imagination is simply that destruction only does 1 thing - 20/03/2012 01:14:55 PM 748 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 04:35:17 PM 596 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 04:59:13 PM 584 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 08:57:35 PM 697 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 21/03/2012 01:09:13 PM 642 Views
Yep . - 21/03/2012 04:51:15 PM 605 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 14/03/2012 12:15:36 PM 697 Views
except the TP is not just a tool. - 14/03/2012 01:41:17 PM 694 Views
No, the Choedan Kal was a tool. - 14/03/2012 05:20:53 PM 537 Views
Sounds like the One Ring - 04/05/2012 03:55:01 PM 738 Views
I totally agree with you on both issues Ben - 07/03/2012 11:44:42 PM 865 Views
No, I don't agree - 10/03/2012 12:11:37 PM 800 Views
That makes no sense... - 10/03/2012 09:21:19 PM 621 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 11/03/2012 12:25:53 AM 660 Views
Name an existing well that has that much power, though. - 11/03/2012 01:11:40 AM 595 Views
He makes a good point though. - 11/03/2012 05:49:59 AM 643 Views
Yes, but... - 11/03/2012 06:17:25 AM 596 Views
Re: Yes, but... - 11/03/2012 06:47:43 PM 611 Views
I found a couple of quote - 12/03/2012 12:00:36 AM 827 Views
Yeah, I looked through Terez' quote database. - 12/03/2012 12:46:38 AM 637 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 11/03/2012 08:54:11 AM 780 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 12/03/2012 02:15:19 PM 851 Views
Re: No, I don't agree - 12/03/2012 01:49:10 PM 821 Views
How the Three can become One using the True Power...mindtraps of Moggy and Cyndane... - 12/03/2012 06:04:22 PM 689 Views
Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims - 13/03/2012 06:43:45 AM 792 Views
Re: Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims - 13/03/2012 05:19:21 PM 624 Views
That's what I meant - 18/03/2012 11:13:19 PM 730 Views

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