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Re: To add to that Sidious Send a noteboard - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM
We also know thanks to Moghedien that those simple commands (I.e. don't trust men, the DR is scary etc...), must be something the person already basically believes or wants ... "LIVE Liandrin" essentially made it impossible for Liandrin to put herself in a situation where she could kill herself, even though she had effectively been Stilled. For Egwene to be effected by something like this, the seed of the belief would have had to have been there or she would have struggled with the command.


I think the seed(s) were there, for instance Egwene would have had a fear of male channelers, as any resident of the WOTverse would have had considering the breaking of the world.
Often considering men to be 'woolheaded' does not show a lot of trust in males of the world. There is also the situation she is in, namely being surrounded by scheming AS. These factors, I really believe, would make Egwene highly susceptible to a bit of subtle compulsion.


True, but anyone is susceptible to subtle compulsion, and as I said, I think only one of the Forsaken can pull that off.
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Egwene under compulsion Knightscape - 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM 1893 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Sidious - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM 1184 Views
To add to that darius_sedai - 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM 1018 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM 1034 Views
Re: To add to that Sidious - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM 913 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM 900 Views
Re: To add to that Evil_Monkey - 19/05/2012 11:04:14 AM 839 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 20/05/2012 05:38:31 AM 868 Views
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM 890 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM 1051 Views
Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM 808 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" DomA - 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM 1052 Views
Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM 765 Views
Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. Datakim - 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM 906 Views
Fair point on Ishamael darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM 930 Views
Re: Fair point on Ishamael Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:56:30 PM 934 Views
You are over simplifying it I think darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:33:48 PM 962 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM 883 Views
Well, Elza did somehow... Voscaia Sedai - 20/05/2012 11:04:56 AM 869 Views
It happened off screen darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:44:40 PM 854 Views
Re: It happened off screen Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:45:26 PM 842 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion DomA - 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM 1175 Views
And lets not forget that Egwene knows to counter compulsion... fionwe1987 - 19/05/2012 01:13:39 AM 913 Views
The Headaches Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM 902 Views
I always thought the headaches were just something Aran'gar did to get close to Egwene darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 04:10:32 PM 847 Views
Re: The Headaches DomA - 19/05/2012 05:12:26 PM 960 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM 892 Views
Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM 867 Views
Re: Like I said before... Knightscape - 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM 771 Views
Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM 783 Views
Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM 828 Views
No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM 858 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:57:44 PM 851 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary DomA - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM 901 Views
Re: Like I said before... Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:21:34 PM 773 Views
Re: Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 06:00:35 PM 915 Views
Seems logical to me, for whatever that is worth. Joel - 21/05/2012 07:28:11 PM 756 Views
Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Cannoli - 21/05/2012 11:13:26 PM 1070 Views
Re: Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Sidious - 22/05/2012 08:22:46 AM 815 Views
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