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Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things Datakim Send a noteboard - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM

You don't need to be a doctor to see when someone has a cold. Egwene is far to high profile to risk someone around her being compelled ... Only a master at the "craft" would have been able to pull it off with so many Channelers around her. Be'lal, Rahvin and Sammael all clearly compelled people to achieve rapid status ... But none of them had to worry much about th AS catching on... And even still there were plenty of people (Darlin in Tear, Lini in Andor and be of the council of Nine in Illian) who noticed the personality difference in those compelled.


Aran'gar was obviously reasonably competent at using compulsion, given that she was able to use compulsion on Ramshalan without totally wrecking his mind. And that was with just few moments of warning and few minutes to work with.

With weeks and months to work on Egwene, I see no reason why a slow, carefull and subtle compulsion could not have been put into place. A tiny bit one day, a little more the next and so on. Such a compulsion would likely not be noticable to those around Egwene, and even if it was, so what? So long as she did not suddenly start acting totally crazy or completely unlike herself, any changes would certainly be attributed to the stress of her new position as an Amyrlin.

The whole point here is that the compulsion would be a subtle one, and not blatant like for example Rahvins compulsion. Subtle enough that even us readers might not see it. :)
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Egwene under compulsion - 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM 1793 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM 1073 Views
To add to that - 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM 915 Views
Re: To add to that - 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM 923 Views
Re: To add to that - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM 794 Views
Re: To add to that - 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM 812 Views
Re: To add to that - 19/05/2012 11:04:14 AM 758 Views
Re: To add to that - 20/05/2012 05:38:31 AM 774 Views
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM 765 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM 921 Views
Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM 713 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM 923 Views
Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. - 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM 693 Views
Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. - 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM 805 Views
Fair point on Ishamael - 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM 840 Views
Re: Fair point on Ishamael - 21/05/2012 01:56:30 PM 840 Views
You are over simplifying it I think - 21/05/2012 03:33:48 PM 833 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM 757 Views
Well, Elza did somehow... - 20/05/2012 11:04:56 AM 751 Views
It happened off screen - 20/05/2012 03:44:40 PM 752 Views
Re: It happened off screen - 21/05/2012 01:45:26 PM 737 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM 1055 Views
And lets not forget that Egwene knows to counter compulsion... - 19/05/2012 01:13:39 AM 812 Views
The Headaches - 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM 798 Views
Re: The Headaches - 19/05/2012 05:12:26 PM 853 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM 769 Views
Like I said before... - 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM 772 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM 688 Views
Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things - 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM 649 Views
Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM 739 Views
No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM 767 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 01:57:44 PM 733 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM 797 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 21/05/2012 01:21:34 PM 653 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 21/05/2012 06:00:35 PM 810 Views
Seems logical to me, for whatever that is worth. - 21/05/2012 07:28:11 PM 627 Views

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