Active Users:361 Time:01/05/2025 04:53:35 AM
No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM

While all true, it doesn't explain why Galad is a Damodred or what advantage his being a Damodred has in the situation.

He is a Damodred because that was how the treaty was signed. You can't simply change your name, after.
All of the above still doesn't explain why Modrellein and Tigrain would have allowed any of Tigrain's children to have thier fathers family name.

Because the father was, politically, as powerful as Tigraine, and like her, heir to a throne. Like I said, compare it to one of Faile's children being heir to Saldea, and another being heir to the Two Rivers. That is a powerful position to be in. Tigraine would have gotten (presumably) a daughter to rule Andor and a son to rule Cairhein. Since the future King and Queen would be brother and sister, wars between the nations would stop. That's the advantage Mordrellein saw in Galad being a Damodred.
It's not like anyone expected Tigrain to not rule as Queen of Andor someday. As both male and felmale children of the Royal line have duty to the country it seems unlikely that any child of this union would be put into such a politically disadvantaged position as Galad would have been in as a Damodred in a Mantear Royal house.

Why is a Damodred in a disadvantage? As heir to the throne of Cairhein, he wouldn't be a part of House Mantear!
While Laman and Tigrain still lived Galad would have no shot at inheriting any Crown as a Damodred.

Why does Tigraine enter the equation? Laman, however, was old, and likely to die before Galad, which made Galad second in line for the Cairheinin throne when he was born.
Taringale's ambitions were just that, he was no longer Heir to the throne and when the dust settled Barthanes ended up as Damodred High Seat.

This was post-Aiel war though. They had no way of anticipating Taringail's removal from the succession because of a future marriage to Morghase when they were signing the treaty for his marriage to Tigraine! At that point, the hope was that Taringail would take the throne of Cairhein when Laman died, and Galad would be his heir. Tigraine would take the throne of Andor, and her daughter with Taringail would be heir. That was the plan...
What is even more strange is that Galad also ended up ousted as High Seat of Mantear since he was a direct Hier to that title and the succession should have been clean and simple.

He was not and heir. As a Damodred, he had no claim to the High Seat of Mantear. He wasn't ever in line, and it was never a consideration after Tigraine died. What is worth noting is that he was passed over as High Seat of House Damodred. That was probably Moghase and Galldrian's doing.
Perhaps after the death of Queen and Daughter Heir Taringail decided to reclaim Galad as a Damodred for some reason.

Why would he have to reclaim him? He was already a Damodred, by Mordrellein's treaty!
No clue what that would have gained him unless that made marrying Morgase cleaner.

You seem to be confused. Galad was already born, and a Damodred from birth, when Taringail married Morghase. Taringail had no choice in Galad's name.
Reply to message
aMoL UK cover and Blurb (SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!) - 21/05/2012 06:44:26 PM 2800 Views
Thoughts... - 21/05/2012 06:46:41 PM 1306 Views
Re: Thoughts... - 21/05/2012 08:04:29 PM 1227 Views
Re: Thoughts... - 21/05/2012 08:45:41 PM 1165 Views
Re: Thoughts... - 21/05/2012 09:04:09 PM 1328 Views
*nods in agreement* *NM* - 21/05/2012 10:46:48 PM 436 Views
Re: Thoughts... - 21/05/2012 11:08:50 PM 1174 Views
Re: Thoughts... - 22/05/2012 01:02:16 AM 1196 Views
Re: Thoughts... - 21/05/2012 09:35:29 PM 1235 Views
Mat and the madness... - 21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM 1182 Views
Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad - 21/05/2012 10:58:37 PM 1197 Views
Not Egwene though... - 21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM 1012 Views
Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness - 21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM 984 Views
Fair enough. - 21/05/2012 11:31:10 PM 1004 Views
Agreed that it's an odd blurb - 21/05/2012 11:45:03 PM 1057 Views
Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness - 22/05/2012 01:14:05 AM 1061 Views
I was thinking about that... - 22/05/2012 02:35:25 AM 974 Views
Re: I was thinking about that... - 22/05/2012 03:41:48 AM 1028 Views
Re: Mat and the madness... - 22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM 1119 Views
Rand's dreams... - 22/05/2012 02:42:36 AM 1042 Views
She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney - 22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM 1198 Views
I'd like some evidence for this. - 22/05/2012 04:14:27 AM 987 Views
It's still ingrained in the society - 22/05/2012 01:28:05 PM 1094 Views
Moridin and the link - 28/05/2012 01:45:43 AM 918 Views
Re: Thoughts... - 23/05/2012 01:06:10 PM 998 Views
What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn." - 22/05/2012 02:12:25 PM 1063 Views
As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar - 22/05/2012 07:20:40 PM 1149 Views
At this stage, all roads lead to Rand. - 22/05/2012 09:08:42 PM 988 Views
Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand. - 23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM 1018 Views
Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon. - 23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM 1003 Views
Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon. - 24/05/2012 02:41:55 PM 1139 Views
Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel... - 24/05/2012 07:04:02 PM 1417 Views
Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel... - 26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM 1572 Views
Agreed... - 26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM 1099 Views
I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends - 26/05/2012 10:37:44 PM 970 Views
Re: Agreed... - 27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM 1042 Views
I think you're both wrong... - 27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM 1042 Views
Re: I think you're both wrong... - 27/05/2012 07:10:08 PM 1035 Views
I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander - 28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM 1057 Views
Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander - 28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM 979 Views
That makes no sense - 28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM 1034 Views
Taringail was Laman's heir... - 28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM 979 Views
You are answering the wrong question - 29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM 950 Views
No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it. - 29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM 1010 Views
Yet not one of these things actually happened - 29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM 1010 Views
You're being absurd... - 30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM 955 Views
Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then - 30/05/2012 05:48:48 AM 944 Views
- 30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM 922 Views
Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne? - 30/05/2012 06:22:08 AM 1087 Views
We don't fully know... - 30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM 832 Views
You just flipped your last statement - 30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM 1067 Views
You seem extremely confused... - 30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM 991 Views
Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have - 30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM 964 Views
Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have - 30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM 1134 Views
I am not contesting the information we have - 30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM 1060 Views
You're impossible... - 30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM 985 Views
Wow ... Not sure what is bringing out the aggression - 30/05/2012 10:19:18 PM 923 Views
*sigh* - 30/05/2012 11:45:28 PM 1003 Views
DomA swore *NM* - 31/05/2012 03:39:24 PM 1090 Views
Re: That makes no sense - 29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM 1131 Views
Only one other thing... - 29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM 853 Views
Re: Only one other thing... - 30/05/2012 12:32:58 PM 912 Views
Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP - 30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM 985 Views
Bryne was First Prince Regent. - 30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM 941 Views
Fair enough ... Thanks for providing a quote - 30/05/2012 06:22:52 AM 1132 Views
Re: Fair enough ... Thanks for providing a quote - 30/05/2012 04:38:29 PM 957 Views
No he wasn't - 30/05/2012 04:16:02 PM 938 Views
No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal - 26/05/2012 10:33:20 PM 873 Views
Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal - 27/05/2012 03:23:12 AM 961 Views
Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal - 27/05/2012 01:50:19 PM 932 Views
Re: Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal - 27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM 1090 Views
I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage - 28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM 1055 Views
He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon. - 25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM 1286 Views
Soon might be relative... - 27/05/2012 02:08:53 AM 1475 Views
Sul'dam - 27/05/2012 09:03:57 AM 1319 Views
Re: Sul'dam - 27/05/2012 05:54:57 PM 1060 Views
Right, then; here we go.... - 03/06/2012 08:45:20 AM 925 Views
Re: As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar - 23/05/2012 05:28:17 PM 986 Views
I think I read a fan fiction like that once *NM* - 23/05/2012 08:04:42 PM 504 Views

Reply to Message