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LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case. lilltempest Send a noteboard - 01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM

I think your contention that Alanna tried it only once is not supportable. When she did try it, it wasn't even on screen.


Sorry, this is complete and utter bullshit. You can't use a nonexistent scene to prove your beliefs, so everything you say after this is like building a castle on a foundation of cow diarrhea...it just won't stand, no matter how pretty you try to make it.

If you can show me dialogue where she says - in clear and distinguishable words - that she tried to control him at some time other than when she first bonded him (and he grasped saidin to protect himself), then post it. Otherwise, you just look like a fool coming up with crap like this.


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Thanks to both of you for digging this up... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 04:01:48 AM 1188 Views
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LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM 1211 Views
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