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Unless... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 01/10/2009 10:49:55 PM
This is why I think a non-general sent the Trollocs after Rand in KoD. It's the dumbest plan ever. There is no way that army could kill 30 Ashaman and Aes Sedai and a group of the deadliest channelers in the Light. Rand didn't lose a single channeler, and not even one of them got injured. For all this Forsaken knew, Rand could have used the Choedan Kal on this army - he certainly still has the male Access Key. This attack could thus only have been 'brilliantly' orchestrated by someone like Moghedien or Graendal. Demandred and Moridin almost exclude themselves because of the low IQ of this military blunder.


... the attack was meant to verify specifically this. After all, the female Access Key melted and that half of the Chodean Kal became unusable. Maybe the attack was intended to find out if the male half was still in use?
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Are women really bad generals? Sidious - 01/10/2009 07:05:03 PM 1625 Views
I think that all we can conclude from this... Rand al'Thor - 01/10/2009 07:39:49 PM 916 Views
No. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 07:41:35 PM 1086 Views
Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... Shannow - 01/10/2009 08:40:47 PM 1151 Views
Lol... too true Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:29 PM 1083 Views
And you guys whine about the lameness of RJ's villains? fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 09:41:54 PM 1146 Views
I still haven't seen proof of Demandred or Ishamael's "brilliance". RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:56:41 PM 889 Views
Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:25:37 AM 870 Views
Re: Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:48:13 PM 787 Views
but you are difficult to please Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:10:13 AM 854 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:46:56 PM 808 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:17:21 AM 785 Views
But they are lame... they've done minimal damage to the Light Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:06:05 AM 792 Views
You can't have it both ways.... fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 06:47:21 AM 883 Views
Why not? Sidious - 02/10/2009 08:45:35 AM 851 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 04:27:00 PM 771 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:34:16 AM 855 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 03/10/2009 07:40:16 AM 817 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 05:07:51 PM 788 Views
Yeah Etzel - 01/10/2009 09:57:01 PM 881 Views
Re: Yeah nossy - 01/10/2009 10:40:28 PM 852 Views
I thought the same in the past... Etzel - 02/10/2009 07:01:18 AM 828 Views
Gah! Hate! nossy - 02/10/2009 04:11:49 PM 841 Views
Ah, come on... Etzel - 02/10/2009 04:41:37 PM 831 Views
No no, I was just being pouty that I haven't read the new stuff yet. nossy - 02/10/2009 05:01:15 PM 832 Views
Yeah, I can understand that! Etzel - 03/10/2009 12:23:25 PM 678 Views
Unless... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 10:49:55 PM 884 Views
Re: Unless... Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:07:14 AM 932 Views
Well, it's entirely hypothetical, Fanatic-Templar - 02/10/2009 06:31:32 AM 798 Views
Re: Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:51:30 PM 921 Views
What about Mat and Ituralde? Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:28:49 AM 878 Views
Re: What about Mat and Ituralde? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:52:24 PM 795 Views
Good points! Also, these "generals" haven't actually fielded any troops beetnemesis - 01/10/2009 11:23:40 PM 799 Views
Further... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 12:14:44 AM 844 Views
But as individuals they are meant to be deadly too Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:09:21 AM 785 Views
Just one point ^_^ RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/10/2009 12:51:50 AM 810 Views
Well, yeah. They're knowledgable and deadly in person. Generalship doesn't come into it. beetnemesis - 04/10/2009 12:09:50 AM 775 Views
nope nossy - 01/10/2009 08:06:57 PM 942 Views
Re: nope Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:38 PM 1019 Views
Tylee Kirgan, Birgitte, and one other, Egeanin NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 09:47:00 PM 1230 Views
Birgitte's not a soldier though. Darth_Katie - 01/10/2009 10:10:50 PM 816 Views
She says she's not, but so does Mat. nossy - 01/10/2009 10:34:04 PM 729 Views
Mat's not a soldier, either - he's a general RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 10:51:29 PM 875 Views
Right, which was what we were discussing at first. nossy - 02/10/2009 04:13:43 PM 800 Views
Yeah, I'm supporting your point about them both being generals RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 06:10:31 PM 833 Views
true, but she does pretty good NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:06:03 AM 877 Views
Oooh I forgot she's in charge of Elayne's lady guards. Darth_Katie - 02/10/2009 03:22:57 AM 750 Views
Egeanin or Leilwin nossy - 01/10/2009 10:35:53 PM 948 Views
A ship captain is like a calvary general NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:24:37 AM 812 Views
Right. Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:36:59 AM 809 Views
Well said. (And its short and to the point.) RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 03:54:23 AM 938 Views
Birgitte is too cautious to be better than an adequate tactician. RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 04:22:45 AM 850 Views
Isn't this more of an outgrowth or her respective specialty? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/10/2009 08:40:46 PM 775 Views
My opinion Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:30:12 AM 1245 Views
That's a poor excuse rAndy aL - 02/10/2009 11:59:42 AM 761 Views
That's a poor argument Cannoli - 02/10/2009 04:02:53 PM 1014 Views
Re: That's a poor argument rAndy aL - 03/10/2009 04:26:55 AM 835 Views
I disagree nossy - 02/10/2009 04:26:28 PM 838 Views
Re: I disagree Cannoli - 02/10/2009 08:31:29 PM 1082 Views
Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 02/10/2009 09:09:30 PM 999 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. Cannoli - 03/10/2009 04:52:37 PM 828 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. NaClH2O - 03/10/2009 08:26:27 PM 720 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 05/10/2009 05:08:27 PM 3302 Views
I always know I've out-argued an idiot when they fall back on the tired old "RJ wanted it that way" Cannoli - 06/10/2009 04:42:11 AM 890 Views
And I can tell you're through when you've gotten to three+ insults per paragraph. nossy - 06/10/2009 05:46:24 PM 972 Views
um nossy - 08/10/2009 07:36:52 PM 1122 Views
Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst RabidWombat - 04/10/2009 07:28:36 AM 936 Views
Men and football. nossy - 05/10/2009 04:49:35 PM 860 Views
She didn't kill anyone! Why SHOULD she feel guilty? She gave necessary orders. Cannoli - 06/10/2009 03:33:15 AM 933 Views
It's the only thing men are allowed to do in Randland CupofDice - 02/10/2009 03:09:19 AM 859 Views
My thoughts LordPerrin - 02/10/2009 03:12:46 PM 760 Views
.... Fantasy - 04/10/2009 03:38:44 AM 770 Views
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