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Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice Rurouni_Kenshin Send a noteboard - 02/10/2009 04:25:37 AM
Demandred and Moridin almost exclude themselves because of the low IQ of this military blunder.


Moridin, if you recall, got himself beaten by LTT/Rand multiple times. Demandred doesn't seem to have done noticeably better - we don't have tales of any grand defeats handed by him to LTT and I assume it's because he would have lost a direct engagement. It's a little hard for me to consider any of the Forsaken brilliant at this point. Oh well.

To paraphrase that Shania Twain song - "So you wrote some books? That don't impress me much."


And it isn't exactly peaches and cream in the Westlands right now. What more do you want from the man?
When the Wolf King carries the hammer, thus are the final days known. When the fox marries the raven, and the trumpets of battle are blown.
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Are women really bad generals? Sidious - 01/10/2009 07:05:03 PM 1576 Views
I think that all we can conclude from this... Rand al'Thor - 01/10/2009 07:39:49 PM 870 Views
No. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 07:41:35 PM 1030 Views
Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... Shannow - 01/10/2009 08:40:47 PM 1103 Views
Lol... too true Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:29 PM 1027 Views
And you guys whine about the lameness of RJ's villains? fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 09:41:54 PM 1042 Views
I still haven't seen proof of Demandred or Ishamael's "brilliance". RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:56:41 PM 837 Views
Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:25:37 AM 811 Views
Re: Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:48:13 PM 736 Views
but you are difficult to please Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:10:13 AM 783 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:46:56 PM 744 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:17:21 AM 737 Views
But they are lame... they've done minimal damage to the Light Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:06:05 AM 733 Views
You can't have it both ways.... fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 06:47:21 AM 824 Views
Why not? Sidious - 02/10/2009 08:45:35 AM 792 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 04:27:00 PM 695 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:34:16 AM 803 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 03/10/2009 07:40:16 AM 741 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 05:07:51 PM 719 Views
Yeah Etzel - 01/10/2009 09:57:01 PM 813 Views
Re: Yeah nossy - 01/10/2009 10:40:28 PM 808 Views
I thought the same in the past... Etzel - 02/10/2009 07:01:18 AM 777 Views
Gah! Hate! nossy - 02/10/2009 04:11:49 PM 788 Views
Ah, come on... Etzel - 02/10/2009 04:41:37 PM 775 Views
No no, I was just being pouty that I haven't read the new stuff yet. nossy - 02/10/2009 05:01:15 PM 779 Views
Yeah, I can understand that! Etzel - 03/10/2009 12:23:25 PM 632 Views
Unless... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 10:49:55 PM 829 Views
Re: Unless... Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:07:14 AM 868 Views
Well, it's entirely hypothetical, Fanatic-Templar - 02/10/2009 06:31:32 AM 744 Views
Re: Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:51:30 PM 862 Views
What about Mat and Ituralde? Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:28:49 AM 814 Views
Re: What about Mat and Ituralde? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:52:24 PM 745 Views
Good points! Also, these "generals" haven't actually fielded any troops beetnemesis - 01/10/2009 11:23:40 PM 751 Views
Further... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 12:14:44 AM 774 Views
But as individuals they are meant to be deadly too Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:09:21 AM 737 Views
Just one point ^_^ RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/10/2009 12:51:50 AM 757 Views
Well, yeah. They're knowledgable and deadly in person. Generalship doesn't come into it. beetnemesis - 04/10/2009 12:09:50 AM 717 Views
nope nossy - 01/10/2009 08:06:57 PM 879 Views
Re: nope Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:38 PM 965 Views
Tylee Kirgan, Birgitte, and one other, Egeanin NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 09:47:00 PM 1169 Views
Birgitte's not a soldier though. Darth_Katie - 01/10/2009 10:10:50 PM 764 Views
She says she's not, but so does Mat. nossy - 01/10/2009 10:34:04 PM 673 Views
Mat's not a soldier, either - he's a general RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 10:51:29 PM 815 Views
Right, which was what we were discussing at first. nossy - 02/10/2009 04:13:43 PM 750 Views
Yeah, I'm supporting your point about them both being generals RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 06:10:31 PM 768 Views
true, but she does pretty good NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:06:03 AM 813 Views
Oooh I forgot she's in charge of Elayne's lady guards. Darth_Katie - 02/10/2009 03:22:57 AM 691 Views
Egeanin or Leilwin nossy - 01/10/2009 10:35:53 PM 895 Views
A ship captain is like a calvary general NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:24:37 AM 747 Views
Right. Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:36:59 AM 748 Views
Well said. (And its short and to the point.) RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 03:54:23 AM 883 Views
Birgitte is too cautious to be better than an adequate tactician. RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 04:22:45 AM 792 Views
Isn't this more of an outgrowth or her respective specialty? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/10/2009 08:40:46 PM 719 Views
My opinion Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:30:12 AM 1186 Views
That's a poor excuse rAndy aL - 02/10/2009 11:59:42 AM 696 Views
That's a poor argument Cannoli - 02/10/2009 04:02:53 PM 944 Views
Re: That's a poor argument rAndy aL - 03/10/2009 04:26:55 AM 783 Views
I disagree nossy - 02/10/2009 04:26:28 PM 792 Views
Re: I disagree Cannoli - 02/10/2009 08:31:29 PM 1017 Views
Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 02/10/2009 09:09:30 PM 944 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. Cannoli - 03/10/2009 04:52:37 PM 766 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. NaClH2O - 03/10/2009 08:26:27 PM 661 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 05/10/2009 05:08:27 PM 3229 Views
I always know I've out-argued an idiot when they fall back on the tired old "RJ wanted it that way" Cannoli - 06/10/2009 04:42:11 AM 827 Views
And I can tell you're through when you've gotten to three+ insults per paragraph. nossy - 06/10/2009 05:46:24 PM 917 Views
um nossy - 08/10/2009 07:36:52 PM 1059 Views
Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst RabidWombat - 04/10/2009 07:28:36 AM 876 Views
Men and football. nossy - 05/10/2009 04:49:35 PM 802 Views
She didn't kill anyone! Why SHOULD she feel guilty? She gave necessary orders. Cannoli - 06/10/2009 03:33:15 AM 876 Views
It's the only thing men are allowed to do in Randland CupofDice - 02/10/2009 03:09:19 AM 785 Views
My thoughts LordPerrin - 02/10/2009 03:12:46 PM 713 Views
.... Fantasy - 04/10/2009 03:38:44 AM 712 Views
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