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RJ debated with himself a bit on Sorilea's strength, assigning low-range, mid-range, and high-range strengths for her. He eventually ended up going with low-range, but still not really approaching the depths of Moiraine's post-Ghenjei strength.

The Wise Ones have more detail on strength than any other non-Aes Sedai group except maybe the Kin. These groups interacted often with the Aes Sedai, sometimes in power (not Power) struggles, and while strength wasn't a factor with the Kin and the Aiel, it was a factor for the Aes Sedai in how they perceived those women.

The debate on Sorilea is a good example of how RJ's notes go. Very, very little is set in stone until the moment when he writes it. He has tons of notes that are marked UNUSED - CAN CHANGE or some variation thereof. It was often UNUSED AS OF CROWN or whatever book; he was very haphazard about reminder protocol, but since the notes themselves are updated haphazardly, book markers were probably necessary to help keep things straight.


Interesting. And I'm glad Sorelia was kept weak. That added a ton of interest to her character, and RJ used it very well in driving Egwene's realization that the Tower shouldn't be discarding women weak in the OP.


RJ made cut-off points for certain files when they reached a certain level of obsoletion. His notes versions also appear to have evolved haphazardly. Thus you have some notes that appear to have been written pre–Winter's Heart, perhaps pre-TPOD, but he quotes a scene from WH somewhere in the notes. Maybe he wrote most of the notes post-TPOD, and the scene in question was one of the first scenes written for WH. That happens a lot. His outline for TGH makes references to assorted, non-chronological scenes from TGH that were already written, and doesn't describe those scenes in the same detail as the unwritten ones. But maybe he wrote the bulk of the notes at one time and kept updating that file (haphazardly) for a couple more books until he made new files.

All this, I think, only deepens my respect for the level of consistency in the series. Yes, he had detailed notes and assistants, but the man himself clearly had a great organizational structure in his head that he never put on paper. No wonder so many things unspooled when Brandon took over.
Random detail from those TGH notes: he described the scene with Lanfear putting on Rand's shirt in great detail. It's amusing how much thought he puts into the sex-related stuff. He loved his lesbians very much.

Lol! I remember finding that scene to be one of the sexiest in the series, for all that it is relatively tame.
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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4725 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 2032 Views
College of Charleston library - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 2124 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 1106 Views
Mesaana - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 2129 Views
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Bringing it all together... - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 2055 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 2132 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1788 Views
Sorry, no... - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1803 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1666 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1737 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1720 Views
Not totally accurate - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1646 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1814 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1640 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1983 Views
Re: Not totally accurate - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1620 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1926 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1802 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 2165 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1854 Views
About that... - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1707 Views
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Re: About that... - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1569 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1851 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1719 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1650 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1801 Views
More on Aiel learners - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1771 Views
Interesting. - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1699 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1810 Views
Oh... - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1739 Views
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Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1856 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1953 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1875 Views
Some things to consider... - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1689 Views
Re: Some things to consider... - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1589 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1693 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 1106 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 2037 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1876 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1708 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1833 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1869 Views
Interesting... - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1878 Views
Re: Interesting... - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1829 Views
LOL! - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1908 Views
More info on Sorilea - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 2005 Views
This is great! - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1962 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1773 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 2041 Views
Easy answer - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1767 Views
Can't argue with that! - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1900 Views
Therava/Galina - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 2394 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1813 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1945 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1922 Views
One question... - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1873 Views
yes to both *NM* - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 1154 Views
Suian? - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1826 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 1052 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1759 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 1068 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1774 Views
no... - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1645 Views
Wild guess... - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1681 Views
One of Terez's criteria - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1638 Views
Hmmm... - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1664 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1865 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 1045 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1701 Views
no - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1742 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1784 Views
Kiruna... - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1730 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1594 Views
Re: Hmmm... - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1683 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1757 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1722 Views
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Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1797 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1659 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1759 Views
Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1790 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1457 Views
Re: Wild guess... - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1794 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1744 Views
That was one of my guesses... - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1518 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 1059 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1667 Views
Lots of no *NM* - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 1082 Views
You're killing me. - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1671 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1743 Views
Wild speculation - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1670 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1652 Views
Hmmm - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1663 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1585 Views
The buffer - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1710 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1839 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1727 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1657 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1744 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1790 Views
So... - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1644 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1651 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1654 Views
I didn't say that - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1709 Views
Re: I didn't say that - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1727 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1623 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1873 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1567 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1837 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1518 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1653 Views
you are such a tease *NM* - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 877 Views
Why doesn't someone... - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1877 Views
Favourite part about this post... - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1892 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1674 Views
no *NM* - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 1032 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1765 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1800 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1815 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 1072 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 1172 Views
Too specific - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1725 Views
Re: Too specific - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1651 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 1072 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1911 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1920 Views

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