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The buffer Zalvera Send a noteboard - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM

View original postI'm saying she acquired a weak angreal through secret means very early in her career, and then began using it immediately.


View original postThis assumes that use of an angreal means that you are not developing your unaided strength, as you are never pushing your strength boundary, being protected by the angreal buffer at all times.

It would also presume that no other Aes Sedai had ever owned an angreal for most of their career, which seems unlikely. It also assumes there's something different about the angreal buffering effect: the a'dam also buffers you against drawing too much, but that doesn't stop damane who have channeled that way from the very beginning from achieving their full potential. (I don't think?)

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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4357 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up AgentApple - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 1731 Views
College of Charleston library Terez - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 1825 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 958 Views
Mesaana Terez - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 1800 Views
Re: Mesaana fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 12:37:52 AM 1850 Views
Danelle Terez - 02/05/2014 12:59:51 AM 1733 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 05:13:44 PM 1797 Views
Re: Mesaana darius_sedai - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1348 Views
Bringing it all together... Shannow - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 1721 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 1779 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... Shannow - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1458 Views
Sorry, no... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1491 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... Shannow - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1376 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1420 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1427 Views
Who said the Tower picked weaker channelers? There's an interesting Egwene quote... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:13:08 PM 1457 Views
Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1330 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1496 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1326 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1636 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1316 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... DomA - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1629 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1494 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 1684 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. DomA - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1566 Views
About that... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1416 Views
Re: About that... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1550 Views
Re: About that... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1315 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1553 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1459 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1346 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1515 Views
More on Aiel learners Terez - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1504 Views
Interesting. fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1406 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1478 Views
Oh... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1434 Views
Re: Oh... DomA - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 1985 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1490 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? DomA - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1649 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... Shannow - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1527 Views
Some things to consider... fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1373 Views
Re: Some things to consider... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1307 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? mogi67 - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1392 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 944 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes Terez - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 1711 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1567 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... Terez - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1427 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle Shannow - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1540 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle DomA - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1563 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1587 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1502 Views
LOL! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1581 Views
More info on Sorilea Terez - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 1712 Views
This is great! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1624 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. Terez - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1485 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. MonCul - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 1686 Views
Re: Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. DomA - 05/05/2014 04:25:18 PM 1475 Views
Easy answer Terez - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1435 Views
Can't argue with that! MonCul - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1558 Views
Therava/Galina Terez - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 2025 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1514 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1657 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. Terez - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1659 Views
One question... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1603 Views
yes to both *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 1011 Views
Suian? MikeyMikeyMikey - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1558 Views
I see why you think that, but by the way Aes Sedai judge people on strength, I doubt it beetnemesis - 09/05/2014 03:48:21 PM 1326 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* Terez - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 886 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Dirty - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1484 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* Terez - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 928 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? beetnemesis - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1496 Views
no... Terez - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1363 Views
Wild guess... fionwe1987 - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1419 Views
One of Terez's criteria DomA - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1381 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1363 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1546 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* Terez - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 902 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1427 Views
no Terez - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1417 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... Shannow - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1472 Views
Kiruna... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1394 Views
Re: Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... DomA - 14/05/2014 03:16:24 AM 1525 Views
Re: Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1325 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1403 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1470 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? Terez - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1443 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1372 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1513 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1377 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1489 Views
Perhaps Romanda? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1521 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1181 Views
Re: Wild guess... Terez - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1477 Views
Just tell them it is Satelle Anan, or one of those women who got burned out early in life... Shannow - 12/05/2014 11:59:06 AM 1547 Views
Have you even read my subject lines? :p *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 01:05:47 PM 901 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... Shannow - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1457 Views
That was one of my guesses... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1259 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 908 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1364 Views
Lots of no *NM* Terez - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 912 Views
You're killing me. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1388 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... Terez - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1487 Views
Wild speculation Zalvera - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1385 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? Shannow - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1377 Views
Hmmm Zalvera - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1375 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... Shannow - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1297 Views
The buffer Zalvera - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1405 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1566 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1431 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1369 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1431 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1493 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1349 Views
While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Shannow - 22/05/2014 08:49:02 AM 1368 Views
Re: While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Zalvera - 22/05/2014 12:03:02 PM 1248 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1351 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1394 Views
I didn't say that Terez - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1446 Views
Re: I didn't say that DomA - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1411 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1329 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1529 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1267 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1538 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1224 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... Terez - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1359 Views
you are such a tease *NM* darius_sedai - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 737 Views
Why doesn't someone... Terez - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1570 Views
Favourite part about this post... Duke - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1584 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? beetnemesis - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1403 Views
no *NM* Terez - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 874 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1470 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! DomA - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1511 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1507 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* Terez - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 913 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 1026 Views
Too specific Terez - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1446 Views
Re: Too specific Dirty - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1359 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 923 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out Sidious - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1592 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1601 Views
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