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Re: One thing... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/01/2016 01:40:21 PM

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Another rubbish thing is that Vora's wand didn't have a buffer. It's actually retarded and not much more than for plot value. I have strong doubts that any sa'angreal would pass quality control without a buffer.

I agree that the fact the lack of buffer was not mentioned is a huge gaping plot hole. Egwene used it like a hundred times on screen, and she never thought about the risks? No one warned her?

But I don't think its implausible that there were extremely powerful sa'angreal made towards the end of the War that weren't perfect. We know the CK didn't have buffers, and it may be that other strong sa'angreal like Callandor and Vora's Wand also had this problem in the end.


Callandor lacked a part of a buffer that allowed the taint to be magnified. I suspected years ago that this meant that it was TP sa'angreal, but even Callandor is safer than Vora's wand.

No, Callandor has no Saidin buffer. That's why you need to be in a link with 2 women to use it safely.
Another point is that if Egwene matched Taim exactly then Vora's Wand is stronger than Sakarnen, which is also kind of strange considering the massive emphasis placed on even Callandor. It makes even less sense then that she couldn't shield him.

The shield thing makes no sense, agreed.

But the matching thing can work. So far as I know, sa'angreal let you draw a set amount, no matter your potential. It is conceivable Vora's Wand was made to match D'jet.

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Re: So about Egwene... Cannoli - 28/12/2015 10:52:29 PM 1448 Views
Why do you bother? *NM* darius_sedai - 29/12/2015 01:23:10 AM 799 Views
Seriously... fionwe1987 - 29/12/2015 01:30:34 AM 1406 Views
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Yet it's Mesaana who forces the head to head confrontation with Egwene darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 05:25:00 PM 1457 Views
I don't get the "circumstances being created" argument anyway... fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 02:53:14 AM 1255 Views
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Damn stupid WoT, never working out the way you think it should! Cannoli - 04/01/2016 01:38:45 AM 1428 Views
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Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive. Cannoli - 04/01/2016 07:17:20 AM 1497 Views
Re: Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive. darius_sedai - 04/01/2016 03:59:18 PM 1428 Views
Re: Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive. Sidious - 04/01/2016 04:19:00 PM 1416 Views
Well, to put things in context fionwe1987 - 04/01/2016 04:28:00 PM 1463 Views
Re: Well, to put things in context Sidious - 04/01/2016 07:05:27 PM 1716 Views
That's not the worst argument given how lame many of them were darius_sedai - 04/01/2016 06:37:44 PM 1518 Views
Uh oh Sidious - 04/01/2016 07:03:08 PM 2072 Views
*grabs Dewars* *NM* darius_sedai - 04/01/2016 08:24:05 PM 915 Views
Re: You people are the insane ones Sidious - 30/12/2015 06:22:02 PM 1560 Views
Apparently, Egwene shouldn't have killed the Sharans... fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 02:56:08 AM 1488 Views
it's just an excuse to not give credit to a character he doesn't like darius_sedai - 31/12/2015 04:44:17 AM 1642 Views
Exactly. The double standard has always existed in Cannoli's rants. fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 05:31:42 AM 1575 Views
Yes well I've only recently started to realize how distasteful it is Sidious - 31/12/2015 06:27:26 AM 1614 Views
Wow... the board was alive 5 years ago! fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 08:34:03 AM 1546 Views
LOL ... Someday you'll come to realize how right we were!!! *NM* darius_sedai - 31/12/2015 05:23:18 PM 933 Views
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You can dislike Cannoli, you can claim his arguments are biased... TyrReborn - 31/12/2015 07:09:55 PM 1563 Views
Offended? No, I find it funny, in a needs medication way darius_sedai - 31/12/2015 07:50:28 PM 1419 Views
It is possible gban007 - 01/01/2016 05:59:51 AM 1554 Views
It's also possible that he created a bunch of sock puppet handles to pat himself on the back darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 06:53:27 AM 1543 Views
Re: It's also possible that he created a bunch of sock puppet handles to pat himself on the back Sidious - 01/01/2016 08:43:43 AM 1499 Views
She's. Not. A. Real. Person. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 01:49:37 AM 1528 Views
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Re: She's. Not. A. Real. Person. lilltempest - 08/01/2016 10:33:22 PM 1471 Views
Fair enough gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:31:47 AM 1271 Views
Where did I say someone who reads his posts are dumb or something? darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 05:15:30 PM 1290 Views
Not directly gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:09:05 PM 1350 Views
And yet I'm being told I'm the one acting offended darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 01:15:15 AM 1257 Views
See, this is the crap I'm talking about. TyrReborn - 01/01/2016 06:20:16 PM 1344 Views
Re: See, this is the crap I'm talking about. Sidious - 01/01/2016 07:25:38 PM 1442 Views
Okay, Mark, all kidding and stuff aside, you're being the asshole, here. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 03:49:08 AM 1425 Views
Okay... Sidious - 02/01/2016 04:50:24 AM 1357 Views
About insults... fionwe1987 - 02/01/2016 05:04:47 AM 1320 Views
I don't know where to even respond about all this! darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 07:39:43 PM 1315 Views
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LOL ... Love it *NM* darius_sedai - 03/01/2016 04:17:02 PM 739 Views
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Um, I think you are going a bit far with your assumptions darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 07:35:23 PM 1298 Views
Cannoli's the one who got offended. fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 09:23:45 PM 1326 Views
Yeah, because I was talking about the books, and then you three started talking about me. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 03:55:23 AM 1348 Views
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Re: You can dislike Cannoli, you can claim his arguments are biased... Sidious - 01/01/2016 08:41:18 AM 1321 Views
Right? Hell, I was semi-mocking YOU for even bothering to get into it with Cannoli! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 05:20:58 PM 691 Views
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My admittedly scratch memory gban007 - 31/12/2015 08:32:51 AM 1374 Views
Re: My admittedly scratch memory fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 08:47:58 AM 1414 Views
Thanks gban007 - 01/01/2016 06:14:45 AM 1307 Views
One thing... fionwe1987 - 01/01/2016 06:42:10 AM 1254 Views
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Interesting gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:18:43 AM 1294 Views
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Maybe it's like a broken bone? gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:10:26 PM 1295 Views
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It's not selective to point out legitimate differences in circumstances. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 12:25:07 PM 1581 Views
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Cheers gban007 - 03/01/2016 09:50:41 PM 1258 Views
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Re: Only if they were germane to the issue... Cannoli - 04/01/2016 07:15:58 AM 1347 Views
Q.E.D. fionwe1987 - 04/01/2016 12:29:58 PM 1617 Views
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Interesting... fionwe1987 - 28/12/2015 02:31:33 PM 1374 Views
Re Perrin gban007 - 29/12/2015 07:24:41 AM 1423 Views
Perrin is right almost all the time. How is he not smart? Cannoli - 04/01/2016 08:26:18 AM 1541 Views
Re: Perrin is right almost all the time. How is he not smart? kHz1000 - 04/01/2016 01:44:53 PM 1399 Views
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Overrated characters Morning - 06/02/2016 04:24:55 PM 1183 Views
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