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General impression lately I guess. Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM
You assume correctly. I must not have been clear.
I was asking about WoT as a series. I understand your arguments against Egwene and while I don't agree on many points I still understand and respect your position. I don't honestly know why I wonder because it really only affects you, but it sounds like you continue to read a series you have a strong dislike for. I can't imagine that is the case as it would be a colossal waste of your time, so my curiosity has been piqued.
I like everything including Egwene's parts. If you really were familiar with my posts, you would know that I often defend it, to the extent that, on wotmania, Sidious often accused me of being a knee-jerk RJ apologist. I am still bemused here, because it SEEMS like you're saying that disliking a character = disliking the series, which makes no sense. Egwene is not even the protagonist, but I have still read and enjoyed books where I disliked the protagonist(s) and everything they stood for. I have read most of Harry Turtledove's novels, for example, which typically have a cast of dozens of PoV characters, of whom I like maybe one or two per series, while strongly disagreeing with his historical conclusions as well. And in spite of this, I have written favorable reviews of his books for the OFMB on wotmania. It is hard to express this without coming across as condescending or belittling, but I mean no offense or personal judgment of you when I say I find the notion that one must like the character or agree with the theme or concept in order to enjoy a book to be extremely immature.

It's been a while and I had forgotten some of the positive things you have said in the past and they are starting to come back to me now that you said that. I certainly don't think you would have to like Egwene or anyone else to like the series, I just didn't remember you saying what you did like. I was sure there was something because of the passion with which you discuss other areas.
I think I made the original question really too vague because I was making sure it didn't sound rude, it was really more of an "okay, I get what you don't like, I'd love to know what you do".
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2431 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 840 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 792 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 501 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 711 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 822 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 879 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 722 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 889 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 743 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 430 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 721 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 722 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 742 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 707 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1231 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 928 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 916 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 820 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 758 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 753 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 834 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 823 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 748 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 922 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 729 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 676 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 774 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 781 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 698 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 772 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 757 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 786 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 883 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 802 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 864 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 753 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 762 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 728 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 707 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 799 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 868 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 698 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 831 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 678 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 733 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 808 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 693 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 652 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 739 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 728 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 787 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 809 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 818 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 663 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 311 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 732 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 893 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 825 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 677 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 803 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 435 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 791 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 857 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 823 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 820 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 776 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 748 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 726 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 764 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 762 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 799 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 714 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 701 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 446 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 764 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 711 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 901 Views

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