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The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument Legolas Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM
As someone points out in the book itself (though I don't remember where now), it's likely that other Amyrlins were elected by Black Ajah Sitters - indeed, Egwene was. They try to make an argument that it's different because Egwene had enough votes to make it even without the Black votes, but I can't see how that makes any legal difference, to be honest. Political, yes. Legal, no. Trying to declare binding votes invalid retroactively because you realize afterwards that some of the voters were criminals doesn't make much sense, and is an enormous slippery slope besides - a number of other decisions of both the Tar Valon Hall and the Salidar one might suddenly prove invalid as well if you follow that line of argument, including, ironically, Salidar's decision to go to war on Tar Valon all the way back in tPoD. Take out Delana's and Moria's votes in favour, and the decision fails to pass, I just checked. See link.

So honestly, Elaida's election was legal, that wasn't the problem with it. If anything strictly speaking illegal happened during that coup, it's more likely to have been the murder of Alric or other things.
tPoD chapter 19 summary
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2555 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 940 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 912 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 550 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 822 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 927 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 983 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 828 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1007 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 858 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 476 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 835 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 829 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 861 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 810 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1340 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1042 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1023 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 932 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 837 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 866 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 951 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 937 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 815 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1036 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 829 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 784 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 886 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 894 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 814 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 889 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 879 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 911 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1003 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 919 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 978 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 836 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 881 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 829 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 824 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 904 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 980 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 806 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 943 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 786 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 841 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 930 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 799 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 753 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 855 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 829 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 930 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 930 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 928 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 772 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 364 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 854 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 998 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 932 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 786 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 929 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 476 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 899 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 966 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 944 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 930 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 905 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 873 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 842 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 882 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 865 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 918 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 786 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 806 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 503 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 872 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 831 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1006 Views

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