The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument
Legolas Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM
As someone points out in the book itself (though I don't remember where now), it's likely that other Amyrlins were elected by Black Ajah Sitters - indeed, Egwene was. They try to make an argument that it's different because Egwene had enough votes to make it even without the Black votes, but I can't see how that makes any legal difference, to be honest. Political, yes. Legal, no. Trying to declare binding votes invalid retroactively because you realize afterwards that some of the voters were criminals doesn't make much sense, and is an enormous slippery slope besides - a number of other decisions of both the Tar Valon Hall and the Salidar one might suddenly prove invalid as well if you follow that line of argument, including, ironically, Salidar's decision to go to war on Tar Valon all the way back in tPoD. Take out Delana's and Moria's votes in favour, and the decision fails to pass, I just checked. See link.
So honestly, Elaida's election was legal, that wasn't the problem with it. If anything strictly speaking illegal happened during that coup, it's more likely to have been the murder of Alric or other things.
So honestly, Elaida's election was legal, that wasn't the problem with it. If anything strictly speaking illegal happened during that coup, it's more likely to have been the murder of Alric or other things.
Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One.
- 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM
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I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER!
- 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM
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I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do.
- 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM
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I adore Brandon Sanderson.
- 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM
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Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson.
- 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM
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Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson.
- 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM
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Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series.
- 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM
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If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure.
- 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM
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Everything up to tGS
- 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM
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Re: Everything up to tGS
- 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM
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What on earth makes you think I dislike it?
- 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM
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General impression lately I guess.
- 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM
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Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is
- 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM
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so I guess ...
- 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM
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You want a friend like Mat
- 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM
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Yes, he will pull thru 4 u in the end, but Matt still needs to grow up. and fast *NM*
- 30/10/2009 07:32:28 PM
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might I add..
- 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM
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Re: might I add..
- 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM
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I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws
- 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM
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Like others don't have flaws?
- 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM
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EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter!
- 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM
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Touched a nerve did I?
- 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM
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Re: Touched a nerve did I?
- 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM
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Re: Touched a nerve did I?
- 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM
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Bah
- 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM
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Actually, Elaida WILL reveal Traveling. We've seen countless times AS broken easily by the Seanchan. *NM*
- 30/10/2009 05:28:06 PM
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More than likely, but if anyone could avoid giving it up it would be stubborn, self rightous Elaida.
- 30/10/2009 09:20:31 PM
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A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman?
- 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM
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Obviously.
- 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM
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I'm afraid of the ooze left over when I take spam out of a can *shiver* *NM*
- 31/10/2009 05:39:03 AM
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Well...
- 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM
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Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value.
- 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM
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Tar Valon is a nation
- 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM
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The Aes Sedai are not. The Tower as a whole rules the polity of Tar Valon.
- 31/10/2009 11:34:42 PM
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The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument
- 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM
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It wasn't absurd. Just clever...
- 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM
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I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal.
- 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM
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Hmm.....
- 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM
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I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then.
*NM*
- 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM
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*NM*
- 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM
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Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen
- 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM
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The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her
- 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM
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It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats.
- 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM
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Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats.
- 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM
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Don't expect rationality from Cannoli...
- 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM
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Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987....
- 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM
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Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987....
- 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM
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Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats.
- 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM
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I have one question
- 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM
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Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible.
- 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM
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Re: The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her
- 31/10/2009 04:31:29 PM
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I don't agree with all of that, but yes, Egwene's successes are a little too much.
- 31/10/2009 04:30:32 PM
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I too wondered when exactly Elaida took an overdose of crazy pills
- 01/11/2009 06:46:16 AM
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There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me.
- 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM
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Poor cannoli; give it a rest you ridiculous numsquatz
- 07/11/2009 06:43:10 PM
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Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit.
- 09/11/2009 05:22:23 PM
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- 09/11/2009 05:22:23 PM
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Re: Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit.
- 10/11/2009 07:36:46 AM
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- 10/11/2009 07:36:46 AM
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*NM*
double post, hate my computer. 