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The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument Legolas Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM
As someone points out in the book itself (though I don't remember where now), it's likely that other Amyrlins were elected by Black Ajah Sitters - indeed, Egwene was. They try to make an argument that it's different because Egwene had enough votes to make it even without the Black votes, but I can't see how that makes any legal difference, to be honest. Political, yes. Legal, no. Trying to declare binding votes invalid retroactively because you realize afterwards that some of the voters were criminals doesn't make much sense, and is an enormous slippery slope besides - a number of other decisions of both the Tar Valon Hall and the Salidar one might suddenly prove invalid as well if you follow that line of argument, including, ironically, Salidar's decision to go to war on Tar Valon all the way back in tPoD. Take out Delana's and Moria's votes in favour, and the decision fails to pass, I just checked. See link.

So honestly, Elaida's election was legal, that wasn't the problem with it. If anything strictly speaking illegal happened during that coup, it's more likely to have been the murder of Alric or other things.
tPoD chapter 19 summary
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2917 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 1265 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 1214 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 707 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 1124 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 1249 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1297 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 1131 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1314 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 1155 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 647 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 1132 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 1133 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 1183 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 1151 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1705 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1367 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1364 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 1240 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 1149 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 1170 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 1269 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 1264 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 1103 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1365 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 1152 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 1097 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 1180 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 1163 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 1103 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 1209 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 1187 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 1313 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1381 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 1244 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1276 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 1174 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 1202 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 1123 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 1158 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 1242 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1292 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 1132 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1296 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 1087 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 1131 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 1285 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 1135 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 1037 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 1171 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 1264 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1295 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 1242 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 1252 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 1061 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 525 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 1143 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1323 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 1244 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 1089 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 1258 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 640 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 1201 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1269 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1264 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 1234 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 1229 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 1198 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 1151 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 1192 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 1181 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 1251 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 1094 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 1103 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 653 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 1150 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 1127 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1331 Views

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