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I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. Legolas Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM

The main illegality with Elaida's election was that her secret calling of 11 Sitters most likely counts as collusion, which is a major crime.

However, the Rebels cause was never justified as fighting an illegal Amyrlin. They merely claim that Elaida's rise, while technically legal, grossly violated the spirit of the law, and her stilling of Siuan and Leane without trial, and the murder of Alric, were definitely not even remotely legal.

Not to mention hiring mercenaries to kill sisters...


That's kind of the whole point - Elaida only acted when she had the minimum of votes needed to legally dispose Siuan and appoint her. I've always assumed that she got permission from the Hall, which apparently has the authority for that, to still Siuan and Leane immediately. The murder of Alric, yes, as I said, it's hard to imagine that being legal or permitted by the Hall.

I was merely pointing out the absurdity of Sidious' argument, that's all.

You'll have to refresh my memory about the hiring mercenaries to kill sisters...
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2573 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. redhand - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 957 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 929 Views
Agreed! *NM* Mats imaginary friend - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 558 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 838 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 943 Views
Me too Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1002 Views
Exactly. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 847 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. thebestrob - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1024 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 879 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 485 Views
Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 851 Views
Re: Ahhh. Bookwyrm - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 844 Views
Re: Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 879 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. Asha'man - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 825 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1360 Views
Everything up to tGS Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1058 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1041 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 950 Views
General impression lately I guess. Seriana Sedai - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 851 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 885 Views
Thanks. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 968 Views
double post, hate my computer. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 952 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is Lord o' Salv - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 832 Views
so I guess ... Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1056 Views
You want a friend like Mat TheCrownless - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 848 Views
Yes, he will pull thru 4 u in the end, but Matt still needs to grow up. and fast *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:32:28 PM 503 Views
How so? What does he do that is detrimentally immature? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:05:07 AM 873 Views
might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 799 Views
Re: might I add.. Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 901 Views
Re: might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 911 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 831 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws ajfurst - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 905 Views
Like others don't have flaws? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 892 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 931 Views
Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1019 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? thebestrob - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 937 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 992 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 856 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 897 Views
And you aren't? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 847 Views
Seems to me you're both right. Legolas - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 842 Views
Bah Sidious - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 923 Views
wait a sec... scalius - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1001 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. entyti - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 823 Views
Actually, Elaida WILL reveal Traveling. We've seen countless times AS broken easily by the Seanchan. *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 05:28:06 PM 485 Views
More than likely, but if anyone could avoid giving it up it would be stubborn, self rightous Elaida. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:20:31 PM 695 Views
Re: Bah Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 958 Views
Rant on! Rant on! rho - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 807 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 860 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? LTArmstrong - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 945 Views
Obviously. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 818 Views
I'm afraid of the ooze left over when I take spam out of a can *shiver* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:39:03 AM 380 Views
Well... Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 767 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 872 Views
Tar Valon is a nation Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 847 Views
The Aes Sedai are not. The Tower as a whole rules the polity of Tar Valon. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 11:34:42 PM 958 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument Legolas - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 958 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 947 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. Legolas - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 946 Views
Hmm..... Sidious - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 790 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* Legolas - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 373 Views
Not a problem... fionwe1987 - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 866 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1016 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 951 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 801 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 948 Views
*snort* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 483 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 921 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 984 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 963 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 950 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 930 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 893 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 862 Views
I have one question Sidious - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 901 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 881 Views
Capture OR kill Sidious - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 936 Views
Re: The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her rho - 31/10/2009 04:31:29 PM 819 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 803 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren rho - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 822 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 511 Views
I don't agree with all of that, but yes, Egwene's successes are a little too much. Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:30:32 PM 948 Views
I too wondered when exactly Elaida took an overdose of crazy pills Asha'man - 01/11/2009 06:46:16 AM 971 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... Zeratul - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 889 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 849 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite Zeratul - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1024 Views
Poor cannoli; give it a rest you ridiculous numsquatz NaClH2O - 07/11/2009 06:43:10 PM 790 Views
Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Cannoli - 09/11/2009 05:22:23 PM 852 Views
Re: Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Sidious - 10/11/2009 07:36:46 AM 979 Views
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