That death has a different meaning to us then to WoT characters, particularly when it concern the Forsaken reincarnation.
Since our Death definition takes precedence over the definition made by these fictional characters in their fictional world your arguments rest on shaky ground.
This is my point entirely! You CANNOT redifine the words to suit yourself.
Since you want to use WoT as and example I will cite Enyclopedia Wot, considered by many many many people to be an expert resource on all thing WoT. If you look up Aginor, his entry basically ends with his death in EoTW. Yes his DEATH! Osan'gar appears later. He is Aginor's soul reincarnated, but he is NOT Aginor! Aginor is dead! My point is that you can say that Cyndane is Lanfear reincarnated but Lanfear had to die before Cyndane appeared. That means that she was killed.
You can possibly make the argument that the death was not as effective due to the intercedence of the DO (the ultimate deus ex machina) but you cannot say that an AS (Moiraine) neither killed Lanfear or caused her to be killed. To blame the AS for her reincarnation as Cyndane is ignorant and short sighted. Since this ignorance was the main point of the original poster, I called him on it.
NaCl(you can argue all you want but the AS killed 3 Forsaken, the fact that they came back doesn't mean they weren't killed)H2O
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts.....
- 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM
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- 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM
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- 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM
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You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM*
- 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM
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Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago?
- 17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM
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That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM*
- 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM
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What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM*
- 17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM
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Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM*
- 18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM
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Short answer: nope.
- 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM
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Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly.....
- 17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM
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Wonderful response, and I agree.
- 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM
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rather..
- 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM
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I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History
- 18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM
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Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true.
- 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM
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Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true.
- 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM
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Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine
- 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM
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AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims
- 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM
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Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims
- 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM
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Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts.....
- 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM
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- 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM
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Always help or contribute.....never do or lead.....
- 17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM
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if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM*
- 17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM
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You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group
- 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM
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SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM*
- 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM
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Scored using your words
- 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM
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Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken.....
- 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM
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So who killed Lanfear? *NM*
- 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM
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You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody.....
- 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM
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They reduced her in power.
- 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM
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Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman.....
- 19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM
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Have you read the books?
- 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM
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I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken.....
- 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM
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Oh dear!
- 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM
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Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death.....
- 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM
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Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death.....
- 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM
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This is silly
- 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM
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There is no misrepresentation
- 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM
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The point I made is
- 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM
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Are we speaking english?
- 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM
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Re: There is no misrepresentation
- 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM
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- 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM
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There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously?
- 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM
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You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM*
- 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM
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It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends.
- 19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM
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