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Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM
Of COURSE Semirhage is reprehensible, and sure, some sore of comeuppance isn't unwarranted. But did it have to be so anti-climatic (I'm talking about the spanking, obviously, not the thing with Rand)?



Let's look at the Nynaeve-Mogheidan relationship. Moggy is obviously just as screwed up as the rest of the Forsaken. Even before she was soul-trapped, she knew she was less powerful in the Power, and resented the other Forsaken. Note her attitude towards Lanfear regarding the World of Dreams. She's TOTALLY the kinda-geeky girl with no friends that mocks and loathes the popular kids, yet secretly wants to be Prom Queen.


Did Moggy's neuroses get in the way of her being an awesome villain? No way. TWO extremely exciting battles, both of which were much, much more than simple slugfests. Plus we got to see Moggy's plots against the Wondergirls, and more. We saw her slap down Liandrin, which was awesome.

And now she's a mind-slave. See? Comeuppance. And Nynaeve still dreads her (although she'll fight her again, of course. Nynaeve attacks anything she fears). THAT'S how to write a villain.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3298 Views
The two of you are pathetic - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1771 Views
Your problem is... - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1706 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 774 Views
No. - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1482 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1388 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 655 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1496 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1445 Views
True to a degree - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1380 Views
There's a little more to it as well - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1336 Views
You know, I agree - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1456 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1283 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1259 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 719 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1273 Views
That's what I meant, actually - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1260 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1210 Views
Re: You know, I agree - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1368 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1463 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1311 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1351 Views
Ditto *NM* - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 631 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1359 Views
And also - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1316 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1200 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1353 Views
personally, I loved the scene - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1508 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 700 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1419 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 742 Views
That was barely a response... - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1305 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1306 Views
Re: That was barely a response... - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1372 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1302 Views
On the other hand - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1290 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1264 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1347 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1286 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1327 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1254 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1355 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1192 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1219 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1332 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1233 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1207 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1184 Views
... - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1307 Views
If they're good at killing people - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 1089 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1357 Views
exactly *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 695 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1328 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1397 Views
I'd like to see that too . - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1240 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 687 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1422 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 795 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1523 Views
I agree with your second half - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1238 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1250 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1254 Views
She is dead to me! - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 1170 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1190 Views
Book 14 you think - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1232 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1338 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1367 Views
Don't avoid the question... - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1295 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1302 Views
Hehe... - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1317 Views
Re: Hehe... - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1320 Views
- 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1191 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1251 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1224 Views
Re: - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1306 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1241 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1326 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1576 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 1173 Views
because thats what sadists are! - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1588 Views
How many people - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1290 Views
At least two. - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 1099 Views
Re: At least two. - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1424 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1235 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1459 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1287 Views

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