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I t doesn't defy EXACTLY the laws of conservation guttering flame Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 03:02:16 PM
You could create turbines near the shore, open a gateway several meters below the surface of the ocean, and let the ocean dump into the turbines to generate electricity. Then the water drains into the ocean and you have a fantastic violation of the conservation of energy which allows you to get out a lot more energy than you put in.

Or you could destroy the planet as you just mentioned.


It would work because there's an infinite reservoir of One Power energy that any channeler can channel by thinking about it (or then tie and leave to flow on on itself).
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If the Forsaken really wanted to defeat the Light - gateways at the bottom of the ocean... Shannow - 20/11/2009 02:02:59 PM 2266 Views
I've actually thought that would be a great way to make a power plant. Narg - 20/11/2009 02:48:21 PM 1255 Views
I t doesn't defy EXACTLY the laws of conservation guttering flame - 20/11/2009 03:02:16 PM 1546 Views
The Forsaken don't think like that Sidious - 20/11/2009 02:57:27 PM 1295 Views
I specifically referred to Ishamael, who shares none of those motivations with the other Forsaken... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:11:26 PM 1512 Views
What in the world... outer space?? This is fantasy, not sci-fi *NM* BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 03:08:26 PM 657 Views
RJ has stated that channelers can Travel to other planets, even other solar systems... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:12:37 PM 1204 Views
I didn't expect him to answer that question, it was just something I was wondering about Ryan - 20/11/2009 04:06:53 PM 1231 Views
OK... BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 05:15:32 PM 1090 Views
Moghedien talks about how they travelled to other stars in the Age of Legends... Shannow - 20/11/2009 06:09:17 PM 1319 Views
Because it is a world that is undergoing an industrial revolution Ryan - 21/11/2009 01:19:28 AM 1133 Views
Tied off gateways dissappear after a while *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:15:56 PM 589 Views
No. Only if the knott is deliberately tied loosely... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:20:18 PM 1106 Views
This brings up an "Evil Wins, What Next?" scenario I've always wondered about Sandwich - 20/11/2009 03:39:14 PM 1269 Views
Nah Ryan - 20/11/2009 04:12:27 PM 1109 Views
Read Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy. =) *NM* Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 07:18:01 PM 614 Views
The DO doesn't have the motivations of the forsaken, he doesn't think like a human... Napoleon62 - 22/11/2009 03:38:15 PM 1222 Views
They would have to know the bottom of the ocean very well to create. *NM* LlordNakcor - 20/11/2009 05:02:50 PM 547 Views
Wouldn't be too hard, given Rand's trick. *NM* BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 05:12:22 PM 659 Views
Intense preasure would kill you before you could weave or a hell of a shield bubble *NM* LlordNakcor - 20/11/2009 07:01:58 PM 699 Views
You're kidding right? LewsTherin10 - 20/11/2009 05:31:36 PM 1171 Views
Yeah, this has actually been discussed Marshall - 20/11/2009 05:50:21 PM 1341 Views
Re: Yeah, this has actually been discussed Lohikaarme - 21/08/2010 02:19:15 AM 1126 Views
Gateway "magic" accounts for this, or most gateways would have STRONG breeze Asha'man Warder - 20/11/2009 06:43:44 PM 1208 Views
Very conducive places, the bottom of the sea and outer space... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 07:01:56 PM 4567 Views
Knee jerk disagreement without thinking beyond: "I don't like the idea so let's flame it..." Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:12:38 PM 1387 Views
Actually... Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 09:15:39 PM 1201 Views
And your response is even sillier ideas? Think for more than three minutes before responding again. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 11:08:59 PM 1129 Views
I must say... this has been highly entertaining! *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:59:51 AM 1144 Views
Yeah... I've been chuckling at this whole thread Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:23:51 AM 1252 Views
You need to go read FoH again... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:35:01 AM 1229 Views
The Silliness Continues-Part IV of Shannow's crazy ways to commit suicide... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 05:44:34 AM 1163 Views
Struggling a bit are you? Shannow - 21/11/2009 06:30:13 AM 1161 Views
On the limits of power guttering flame - 21/11/2009 07:32:44 AM 1181 Views
Great question. These fundamental issues are the REAL challenges to be overcome, yes... Shannow - 21/11/2009 07:50:46 AM 1250 Views
Thanks guttering flame - 21/11/2009 08:03:28 AM 1233 Views
Fluids CAN move across gateways on their own. We saw it with the draft of wind in tGS. *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:32:46 PM 613 Views
Oh, and regarding the new Travelling skill Nynaeve mentions in tGS... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:03:45 AM 1247 Views
Ah, thanks guttering flame - 21/11/2009 08:10:48 AM 1119 Views
Actually, I just reread that passage, and now I'm confused again... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:30:17 AM 1136 Views
Its pretty simple... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:07:14 PM 1085 Views
You don't learn a place when you Travel TO it... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:23:11 PM 1174 Views
The same issue again... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:58:37 PM 1132 Views
No, you're wrong, and here are the quotes... Shannow - 22/11/2009 06:51:06 AM 1332 Views
That might mean nothing... fionwe1987 - 22/11/2009 06:37:33 PM 1209 Views
That does seem inconsistent... Legolas - 21/11/2009 09:25:52 PM 1443 Views
They might have shared Gateways, so only those who wove them know the area? *NM* Marshall - 21/11/2009 10:00:04 PM 561 Views
That has to be the first sensible question broached in this thread... Legolas - 21/11/2009 09:18:59 PM 1371 Views
Since Shannow seems to think disagreeing with him is EVIL... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:38:55 PM 1152 Views
Re: On the limits of power Tor - 20/08/2010 06:25:19 PM 1109 Views
Such a geek Camilla - 20/08/2010 08:08:11 PM 1406 Views
The One Power is completely impenetrable to regular matter Marshall - 21/11/2009 08:16:58 AM 1111 Views
The simplest explanation'd be that GWs can't be opened in water, since it moves/changes constantly Lordling - 20/11/2009 07:27:08 PM 1036 Views
Balefire is much, much easier . TheCrownless - 20/11/2009 08:50:24 PM 1151 Views
Or balefire Rand. Wait a few generations near Dragonmount, kidnap all children born on the slopes... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 09:07:46 PM 1143 Views
The Forsaken DON'T want to defeat the Light. Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 09:18:42 PM 1260 Views
Why didn't Frodo and Sam just ride the Eagles to Mt. Doom, and toss the Ring then fly back? *NM* Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:35:17 PM 592 Views
lol Straight from www.HowMoviesShouldHaveEnded.com *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/11/2009 01:15:45 AM 570 Views
The Forsaken are still doing the Light's will. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/11/2009 01:42:16 AM 1127 Views
Actually here's an even simpler idea: open a gateway into a Black Hole. *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:53:38 AM 708 Views
You can't...there aren't any Black Holes close enough... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:22:38 AM 1159 Views
Doubtful Marshall - 21/11/2009 03:29:35 AM 1138 Views
Let me clarify...you CAN Travel to other solar system... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:39:36 AM 1175 Views
You're right, I just went back and checked the sources Marshall - 24/11/2009 12:04:09 AM 1138 Views
Surely Moridin could channel enough of the True Power... *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:19:05 PM 529 Views
Moridin cannot channel any more of the True Power than he can of the One Power. Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:58:30 PM 1045 Views
He managed to do great fits with the power he had. guttering flame - 21/11/2009 05:12:52 PM 1046 Views
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