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How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM

About your last sentence. Who says Graendal and Semirhage are not on the same level? Give me one quote that proves otherwise?

In fact, give me a convincing argument that even strongly SUGGESTS otherwise?


I was talking about Cyndane.

We don't have a single comparative quote between Graendal and Semirhage, or even between Graendal and Nynaeve, which would allow us to extrapolate to Semirhage.


Well exactly! So what's all this crap about the thematic significance of Semirhage being stronger than Cyndane. Even you admit that Semirhage is an enigma.


I just chuckled to myself at your last comment.

May I ask then, after admitting what you just did in that last paragraph, on what possible basis do you put Graendal THREE LEVELS higher than Semirhage?
This message last edited by Shannow on 20/11/2009 at 07:51:43 PM
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 1972 Views
Except... Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 992 Views
There's no evidence for that Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 938 Views
I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list kcf - 19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM 950 Views
It's common sense Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 871 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 999 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 864 Views
I didn't say that Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 918 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 895 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! Shannow - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 1026 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 1031 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... Shannow - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 1108 Views
But I'm not Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 987 Views
Let me ask you this... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 1035 Views
Very good point *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 450 Views
One possibility Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 963 Views
All assumption Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 928 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 855 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 995 Views
Why? Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1517 Views
Re: Why? Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 895 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 884 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 889 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 1003 Views
Probably not in this case Sidious - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 872 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. Logain - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 886 Views
Yeah... entirely Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 850 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Logain - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 881 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 963 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 923 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 883 Views
my comments w/ edit kcf - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 944 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 1025 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 818 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* callandor1000 - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 600 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 467 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 971 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 974 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 834 Views
Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM 493 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* Basara - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 507 Views
Too many levels Rurouni_Kenshin - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 960 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 846 Views
21 levels is largely a myth kcf - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 887 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth DomA - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 980 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 431 Views
That's good to know. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 831 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 1000 Views
I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways Logain - 20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM 1012 Views
Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM 1101 Views
Re: Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve Logain - 28/11/2009 10:05:15 PM 1108 Views
Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 881 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. taura-tierno - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1325 Views
Agree with nearly all Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 829 Views
more hopefully to come kcf - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 812 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. Shannow - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 1061 Views
I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM 403 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 902 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 820 Views
It's possible Logain - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 868 Views
Re: It's possible darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 941 Views
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