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So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen? RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM
Because you think they would not assassinate someone given the opportunity?

Talk about ignoring the evidence in the books :rolleyes:.

You're basically saying "Oh, well even though we've seen Semirhage, Moghedien and Lanfear assassinate people on-screen, that's not enough evidence to assume they would do it." Which is quite insane and illogical IMO. While it would be nice to assume that given dependable servants, the three Forsaken above actually have a good reason for NOT trusting these tasks to others: Lanfear herself directly states that she doesn't use Greymen or soulless, preferring to do it herself in TSR while Semirhage gets more pleasure of drawing it out. And if you are going to argue that Moghedien's entire methodology of hiding in shadows waiting for an opponent to stumble into her web before destroying them is not an assassination, we might as well agree to disagree on this, as well.

Notice how the listing above quite neatly includes the two Forsaken who the BRB mention as being exceptionally competent with assassinations as well as the two who've been doing this throughout the series?
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Fain's Myrddraal Etzel - 28/12/2009 01:45:58 PM 2094 Views
Nope, Myrddraal have been nothing but cannon fodder since book four *NM* Lordling - 28/12/2009 03:01:01 PM 574 Views
except, of course, for Shaidar Haran *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:12:17 PM 554 Views
But what was the purpose then? Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:43:01 PM 1070 Views
To show the relationship between Fain and DO Bonden - 28/12/2009 03:52:59 PM 1037 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:02:42 PM 1078 Views
Re: Maybe... Bonden - 29/12/2009 03:58:57 AM 1290 Views
Re: Fain's Myrddraal RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 03:19:37 PM 1051 Views
Slayer also hunts Rand Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:57:11 PM 1105 Views
I think it's possible that Slayer could have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 04:35:57 PM 989 Views
The explanations Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:06:02 PM 1261 Views
Perhaps, I still don't buy it, but if that's the way it turns out I won't be shocked darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 05:20:06 PM 1196 Views
Your reaction would be similar to BS's then Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:57:44 PM 2124 Views
I don't really have a strong opinion on which suspect did it darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:03:07 PM 984 Views
Well... Etzel - 28/12/2009 06:42:16 PM 1033 Views
Indeed *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:55:52 PM 509 Views
Re: The explanations RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 08:01:19 PM 940 Views
The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:13:07 PM 1028 Views
Re: The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:19:24 PM 1097 Views
The reason is... Etzel - 29/12/2009 11:58:24 AM 1056 Views
The reasoning is very weak. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:34:19 PM 1073 Views
If you mean... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:01:25 PM 1155 Views
A few points darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:14:12 PM 981 Views
You are wrong... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:25:09 PM 977 Views
Thanks for the quote .. obviously hadn't heard that one before! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:31:37 PM 1077 Views
Key word - "possibly" RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:38:46 PM 991 Views
As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:06:47 PM 943 Views
Re: As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:08:09 PM 879 Views
Well, it protects you of Shadowspawn, not that bad. Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:12:04 PM 970 Views
I don't think what happened to Fain or Slayer are "gifts" darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:26:15 PM 876 Views
Slayer calls it "gifts" in his PoV Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:37:49 PM 919 Views
I think you are stretching the reality a bit darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:42:10 PM 971 Views
You confuse it a bit... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:57:07 PM 1032 Views
I think you've got it backwards darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 07:12:02 PM 930 Views
However... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:16:08 PM 966 Views
I wasn't arguing that point darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM 1198 Views
Some things don't have to be spelled out, if they are that clear... *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM 925 Views
clearly they do since people are discussing it! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:37:00 PM 895 Views
Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM 995 Views
Sorry, but that is utter nonsense Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM 1086 Views
You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 1043 Views
Simply read the books and what the authors said... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:55:42 PM 978 Views
Sorry, I think you have an opinion and read everything to support it in this case. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:02:42 PM 948 Views
Ok, then we play dumb, if you like... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:14:58 PM 1060 Views
Because the Dark One is not merely a super channeler. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:21:21 PM 1080 Views
Well, I disagree of course... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:36:19 PM 1228 Views
You are mistaken on quite a few counts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:37:51 PM 1150 Views
Actually... Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:04:54 PM 1051 Views
BWB says... darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 05:48:40 PM 1265 Views
Exactly. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:30 PM 496 Views
Well... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:18:08 PM 1095 Views
Just pointing out that your comment about Lanfear and Moggy not being assassins darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:37:21 PM 1000 Views
No... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:47:07 PM 1210 Views
Re: No... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:00:20 PM 1166 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:10:12 PM 916 Views
So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM 989 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:47:57 PM 880 Views
I think any Forsaken is capable of doing it. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 08:05:10 PM 984 Views
Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:16:50 PM 844 Views
Re: Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 09:21:23 PM 944 Views
She kidnapped the Sharan's ... who's to say she hasn't killed others? *NM* darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:17:28 PM 487 Views
Yeah, after TFoH! We are looking for clues before LoC, guys! *sigh* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:31:13 PM 816 Views
Where did I say this was a clue to her doing it? darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:58:29 PM 1058 Views
I don't say... Etzel - 30/12/2009 12:08:27 PM 1169 Views
Most of what you are talking about with Slayer is discoverd after LoC darius_sedai - 30/12/2009 02:36:18 PM 1057 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:41:29 PM 980 Views
It becomes clear... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:59:03 PM 885 Views
Basically, you think Slayer killed him. I do not. Nor do I care. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:04:20 PM 856 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:17:22 PM 537 Views
Re: Slayer also hunts Rand RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 04:39:36 PM 1172 Views
As said... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:54:07 PM 962 Views
Re: As said... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 07:49:22 PM 950 Views
It's rather the TP, which makes Slayer inhuman... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:21:20 PM 953 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 09:45:08 PM 1029 Views
Re: makes you wonder RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:16:57 PM 1026 Views
I think... Etzel - 29/12/2009 12:03:41 PM 917 Views
Fain's Myrddraal killed asmo LOL *NM* aldapelan - 29/12/2009 05:26:22 AM 547 Views
It is quite obvious that it was Mistress Laras. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:35:36 PM 516 Views
Intuitively, even. *NM* Gher - 29/12/2009 06:03:13 PM 490 Views
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