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Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM
I think it's rather likely that the DO really wanted to capture Rand at this point, as SH (and before him, Moridin) ordered it. What happened then, namely Semirhage forcing Rand to kill Min & Rand using the TP via the link to Moridin, wasn't predictable, IMO.

But even if the DO truly just wanted Rand to use the TP, he certainly didn't care if Semirhage was broken or not.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1437 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 858 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 329 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 697 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 718 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 304 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 746 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 698 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 649 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 737 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 647 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 739 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 702 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 677 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 599 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 738 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 652 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 703 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 767 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 310 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 307 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 308 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 342 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 739 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 764 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 616 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 736 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 716 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 749 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 687 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 317 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 653 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 319 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 593 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 687 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 691 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 297 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 658 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 702 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 737 Views
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