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Elza "found a reason to follow the Compulsion" darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 14/01/2010 11:23:33 PM

Reading this quote it's odd that Elza still holds to her "you will face the Great Lord and lose" mentality ... that epiphany was due to the compulsion in the first place so with it gone why still hold to it?

Verin did not implant this idea into Elza's head.


Which only means that she convinced herself that this is why she swore to Rand.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Elza's Compulsion Sidious - 14/01/2010 08:41:04 PM 2151 Views
I think Graendal was involved on some level in this part of the story darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:12:05 PM 1073 Views
I disagree Etzel - 14/01/2010 09:27:27 PM 945 Views
except work with Semirhage! darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:34:37 PM 873 Views
Well... Etzel - 14/01/2010 09:43:40 PM 1018 Views
SH can't channel thus can't teach Elza anything *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 10:20:19 PM 365 Views
Yeah, but according to BS, he apparently could "give her the knowledge". *shrug* *NM* Etzel - 15/01/2010 07:16:22 AM 313 Views
that's your interpretation of the quote darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 05:58:30 PM 759 Views
This and the others quotes suggest that only SH and Elza were involved *NM* Etzel - 16/01/2010 09:51:24 AM 292 Views
As I said that's certainly one of of interpreting the quotes darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 03:46:55 PM 690 Views
The question is... Etzel - 16/01/2010 03:59:24 PM 702 Views
Re: The question is... darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 04:02:55 PM 699 Views
Yeah, as I said elsewhere, would be a nice question for BS, if there was another Forsaken. *NM* Etzel - 16/01/2010 04:08:05 PM 791 Views
I bet you anything he'd giva a big fat RAFO to that darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 04:08:58 PM 705 Views
BS spoke quite openly about this scene, though Etzel - 16/01/2010 04:16:09 PM 751 Views
always worth a try, but wasn't he asked to be less open recently? darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 04:31:54 PM 721 Views
Shaidar Haran can't channel. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 09:34:51 PM 1092 Views
I know... Etzel - 14/01/2010 09:45:15 PM 929 Views
I agree with you, for a related but slightly different reason ... Shishka - 14/01/2010 09:58:28 PM 1014 Views
That doesn't prove anything... fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 10:07:46 PM 944 Views
It proves enough for me ... Shishka - 14/01/2010 10:26:28 PM 857 Views
Re: That doesn't prove anything... Sidious - 15/01/2010 11:03:05 AM 664 Views
not really darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 05:29:25 PM 695 Views
I don't understand your theory Sidious - 16/01/2010 05:08:03 PM 668 Views
It's very simple darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 06:17:36 PM 663 Views
So in other words Sidious - 17/01/2010 06:31:58 PM 783 Views
no I'd continue to insist that something disproved was correct darius_sedai - 17/01/2010 06:43:41 PM 682 Views
Re: no I'd continue to insist that something disproved was correct Sidious - 18/01/2010 04:48:33 AM 714 Views
I'm talking about implanting knowledge into someone elses head darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 05:37:32 AM 696 Views
Here's Brandon's one answer Sidious - 18/01/2010 05:20:20 PM 741 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 18/01/2010 05:48:54 PM 704 Views
Exactly my point darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 06:24:25 PM 719 Views
But by this logic... Etzel - 18/01/2010 06:50:43 PM 665 Views
Yes... fionwe1987 - 18/01/2010 07:00:40 PM 711 Views
While you are right... Etzel - 18/01/2010 08:44:19 PM 695 Views
as we've discussed in another thread darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 09:08:56 PM 1100 Views
I mean... Etzel - 19/01/2010 02:21:39 PM 711 Views
Weren't they specifically called Weaves that haven't been seen since the AoL? darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 05:26:38 PM 734 Views
"Elza had been given knowledge of several rarely known weaves" is the quote. Etzel - 19/01/2010 06:14:22 PM 666 Views
Well if they were secret Ajah weaves someone would have recognized them *NM* darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 06:21:19 PM 311 Views
Maybe secret BA weaves... Etzel - 19/01/2010 06:37:42 PM 920 Views
Possible since she was the only BA in the area darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 06:40:38 PM 947 Views
See, I think there's reason for her presence to be kept secret... fionwe1987 - 18/01/2010 09:10:43 PM 772 Views
I have a hard time... Etzel - 19/01/2010 02:17:52 PM 771 Views
I agree with you Sidious - 19/01/2010 04:45:59 PM 719 Views
and you may very well be correct darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 05:39:02 PM 925 Views
Yet Rand/LTT tells us only a few chapters later darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 10:27:57 PM 772 Views
Anything is possible ... Shishka - 14/01/2010 10:54:46 PM 787 Views
who knows darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 11:21:43 PM 750 Views
It's not all that convoluted, though ... Shishka - 15/01/2010 03:26:01 PM 657 Views
Cyndane/Moggy/Graendal it all amounts to the same in the end darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 05:57:10 PM 846 Views
Re: Cyndane/Moggy/Graendal it all amounts to the same in the end Shishka - 15/01/2010 06:25:32 PM 729 Views
Re: Cyndane/Moggy/Graendal it all amounts to the same in the end darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 06:44:26 PM 679 Views
Good point! Etzel - 15/01/2010 07:19:00 AM 772 Views
Re: Good point! Shishka - 15/01/2010 05:30:12 PM 664 Views
I agree Etzel - 16/01/2010 09:50:09 AM 647 Views
what doesn't make sense about this to me darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 06:04:45 PM 731 Views
Re: what doesn't make sense about this to me Shishka - 15/01/2010 06:29:59 PM 743 Views
this makes my head hurt ... or maybe all that red wine I drank last night is doing that darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 07:04:23 PM 717 Views
damn double posting darius_sedai - 15/01/2010 07:04:56 PM 660 Views
As it is often the case... Etzel - 16/01/2010 09:30:56 AM 760 Views
go re-read my statements and quit putting words in my mouth please. darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 03:59:52 PM 717 Views
Well... Etzel - 16/01/2010 04:14:28 PM 607 Views
as I said it's also possible that SH has new abilities darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 04:33:30 PM 658 Views
Re: I think Graendal was involved on some level in this part of the story RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/01/2010 09:30:53 PM 763 Views
Uhhh? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 09:13:13 PM 954 Views
One point darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 09:20:09 PM 842 Views
Re: One point Oberonus - 14/01/2010 09:32:00 PM 765 Views
Elza truly believes that... fionwe1987 - 14/01/2010 09:38:35 PM 779 Views
Elza "found a reason to follow the Compulsion" darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 11:23:33 PM 831 Views
So, it came from her, and would not go when the Compulsion was removed. Cannoli - 15/01/2010 05:56:32 AM 776 Views
fair enough darius_sedai - 16/01/2010 04:34:05 PM 802 Views
Not quite rAndy aL - 14/01/2010 09:38:45 PM 794 Views
But that could mean that they were to start the LB between Rand and the Great Lord immediately *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 16/01/2010 01:04:32 PM 312 Views
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